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[–] irishPotato@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

The fuckin Scottish over’ere sidin’ with Anakin all willy nilly

[–] TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TIL the USSR named their space station "peace"

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IIRC it also means "world".

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So... "world peace" is just....? Google returns a phrase that it translates back into "peace in everything," but the word does repeat in that phrase. I'm sure it's a contextual thing and I know some things just don't carry over between languages, but now I'm interested in how Russian works.

[–] 8deus8@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That would be мир во всем мире, literally peace in all the world

[–] o0joshua0o@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've also heard миру мир: "peace to the world".

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I see it more often

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[–] hansl@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The whole point was to get past the Cold War and make union between countries. MIR was peace; Americans and Russians working together for all mankind’s scientific progress

Then came politics.

[–] omgarm@feddit.nl 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why yes, the name Frederick literally comes from the Germanic words frid (peace) and ric (ruler)

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the guy who conquered Silesia and half of Poland and made Prussia a Great Power was named 'King of Peace'?

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[–] MudMan@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Wait, hold on, a fairly accurate map instead of just countries?

Who's the linguistics nerd that wanted to make a point about peace and empathy and the absolutely tragic loss of human life, but couldn't resisit also making a little bit of a point about language diversity? Whoever you are, I see you.

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a lot better than most such maps, but still, there's way too many languages missing in my opinion :)

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I take little bit of issue having south part of Finland having swedish there.

Edit: ok, the projection is bit funky here, that is not southern Finland (Uusimaa), but south west Finland (Varsinais-Suomi) which is conquered by Swedish Finns

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[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

The Finnish word on the map is in the partitive case, the base form is "rauha" with just one "a" at the end.

[–] Falldamage@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Dutch ”vrede” would translate to ”wrath” in Swedish. Just fyi

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

I speak both languages fluently but I never noticed, lol

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

i'm maltese. they cut us out of the map! We say "paci". pronosonced like "paa-chi"

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All I want is some damn Fred and quiet.

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a drunk trying to order a fried egg roll.

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

That sounds about right.

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[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (14 children)

"vrede", which means "peace" in Dutch, means "anger" in Danish (probably not pronounced the same way, but the spelling is the same.)

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[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

May Fred be upon you.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So that's where the name Fred comes from.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Short for Fredrick, and Rik in Norwegian means rich. So peace, but only if you're rich.

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[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Mixel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In polish "pokój" also means literally room.

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

In serbian "spokojno" means peaceful as in quiet. Other variations are of death though, "pokojnik" is a dead person.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In russian it means same. I wonder of polish have second word, because pokoy(pokój) is another kind of peace in russian.

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[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I love this type of maps. Need to see more of those.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

The Russian Mir is thought to come from the same proto Indo European root as the English "mild".

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Germanic one looks like Freedom. Is it?

What language family is Pokój? I thought Polish was a Slavic language, but they don't say Mir.

Béke is Uralic? But also Turks use it?

Where is Taika from?

I NEED MORE INFO!!!!!!

[–] Andrej-Zulanov139@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pokój is also Slavic. In Russian related word means something closer to "calmness" and sometimes has overlapping meaning with English "peace". Like "peace" in "peace and quite" for example will be translated with "pokoj", while "mir" in the sense of "peace" means only the opposite of "war".

I assume colors show the original meaning of the word, not the language family.

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edit: whoops, missed your first first question. Yes, fred et al come from Proto-Germanic frithuz, which is constructed from frijaz (free) plus noun suffix -thus.

Well as for the ~~first~~ second one, language families tend to have different roots for the same thing, of which different ones will become preferred in different regions. Both of these words actually work in both Russian and Polish, it is just that one of them is archaic.

As for the ~~second~~ third one, I don't think they're supposed to be the same colour. As far as I know, they are unrelated.

For your ~~third~~ fourth question, no clue. I might look into it someday.

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Rauuuuuuuhaaaaa!!!!! Love it.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course the Germans have the longest spelling. Why use four letters when you can use sixteen?

[–] kennismigrant@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

Of course the English have the longest spelling. Why write "paz" or "pau" or "pís" when you can add two more letters? Even French did not fuck it up as much.

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