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[-] teft@startrek.website 10 points 2 years ago

It’s got Jameela Jamil in it. That’s good enough for me.

[-] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The Good Place is a series I recommend.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why don't you watch it and decide for yourself? What's with this need for everyone to be validated by the shitty opinions of others?

I thought it was funny and the characters were well crafted. The goofy tone worked surprisingly well, and in retrospect it shouldn't have surprised me how well it worked because we're talking about a universe where people turn into giant green beefcakes and shoot lightning out of their hands. That's silly as hell, and this show is really the first instance of the MCU acknowledging that. I want more of it.

[-] canthidium@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

What’s with this need for everyone to be validated by the shitty opinions of others?

Also this need for everything to be put in a box. One or the other. Black or white. It's somewhere in between, like most things in life. I hate this weird need to label everything all the time.

[-] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'd rather not potentially waste my time watching something to see if it's good, if others can tell me that have already seen it. That could be one reason people seek others' opinions first, idk. However I acknowledge that this method doesn't always lead to successful recommendations.

[-] Pizzasgood@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

It's a fun show. The ending didn't quite land right, but whatever; it's not the kind of series where that matters. Also, I didn't have any problem with the CGI and don't understand why so many people are complaining about it; probably they're just the CGI equivalent of audiophiles and should be ignored by any who don't share that particular affliction.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't agree with the CGI part. It wasn't Black Panther bad. But there are a lot of moments where it looks off. But it also didn't have the budget of Infinity War or anything, so it's okay to not be as impressive.

I'm not usually super nitpicky with that stuff and it didn't ruin the show. But it was noticeable.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I think perhaps a bit of both? It had some good aspects and there were some total misses and most of it was just ok to meh. There was also a misogynist uproar surrounding it. But you don't need to be misogynist to hate it.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

I genuinely enjoyed it. Yeah, the CG is... spotty, at best. And some of it's ridiculous. But the She-Hulk comic always had a comedic tone, even when it was dealing with more serious issues. IMO, it's definitely enjoyable. It's not my favorite Marvel series--that's probably Loki so far--but it's enjoyable for what it is.

[-] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Guardians Holiday Special < She Hulk < Miss Marvel < Secret Invasion < Hawkeye < Falcon and Winter Soldier < Moon Knight < Loki < Wandavision.

Disney+ shows don't suck as much as the haters hate them. The ones on the top are actually really really good.

I think they really let themselves experiment and get weird with the D+ shows, which I think is a GOOD thing, even if it resulted in some REALLY cringy moments in She-Hulk and Miss Marvel and some "... what are you doing?" moments in Secret Invasion and Hawkeye.

In general, the MCU seems to be striking out a lot on the sillier end of things lately. Makes me anxious about Deadpool.

So much of what Star Wars does these days has the feel of filler. Like Dave Filoni is giving ChatGPT three or four climactic moments and then letting it write the rest of the show. MCU does NOT feel like that to me, even at it's worst.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You put Secret Invasion above things? Yikes, dude. I can understand putting She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel lower than other stuff, because they were more targeted to specific audiences and didn't necessarily have the same mass appeal as the others, but they are good at what they were attempting to do, even if you don't love what they were trying. Secret Invasion didn't even seem to know what it was trying to do, but it failed at every level.

[-] mjpc13@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

You miss What If? The show with some of the best episodes imo

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago

And also Werewolf by Night, which was the most slept-on genre production of the past year.

[-] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's just not in the same category in my brain. It had some of the best episodes and some of the worst episodes, but I really feel like it's it's own thing.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Tbh What If was probably my least favorite of all the marvel shows. Closely followed by Wearwolf By Night.

I never watched She-Hulk though

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No Werewolf By Night or What If?

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

I think it had a lot of the same issues the other recent Disney+ shows had, but it was a fun watch

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I liked it. I wish it was a little longer, so we had a better character build for her. I say that about most Disney+ shows, though. I get they're expensive, but they're also the largest media empire on earth. They monetize the show far outside the initial run of it anyways so it would be nice to give some of these shows a better chance of hooking people during the first season with a few more episodes and a less rushed story.

[-] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Some people hate it for legit reasons, but most are just misogynists.

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It was ok. Certainly not on level with loki, wandavision or moonknight, but not bad either. But I especially didn't like the feige part, and the ending itself, and breaking the fourth wall, which is something i didnt like in deadpool either.

[-] Steinsprut@szmer.info 4 points 2 years ago

It was a fun ride for me

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

It's great, probably my favorite marvel miniseries.

I didn't read any reviews about it so I want aware of the haters.

The actress is really great and the storylines and action were all fun but made sense in the story, a story that I found made more sense and was more engaging than most marvel stories.

Whatever low ratings there are have gotta be full of crap.

[-] SamXavia@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago

@Grapetruth It's both, really liked some of the beats of the show, some of the CGI is spotty at point but tbh understandable with the staff being overworked, and I watch early 2000s movies with bad CGI all the time and still love it, so it's not a big deal in my eyes.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

It's a fun little show, that's not meant to be taken even slightly seriously.

People who hate it with a passion, are weirdos. Just like the people upset with the little mermaid movie.

You have to be pretty immature/weird to get upset about something so inconsequential.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I feel like people have really weird expectations about some shows. And when that show does it's own thing and refuses to cater to those expectations, people get mean and refuse to appreciate the show on its own terms. And when I say people, I mean misogynists. Expectations are the male gaze. And the show is women.

[-] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 2 points 2 years ago

It was bad. Just like The Secret Invasion was bad, bit with a male lead. There you go.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's pretty dumb. It's lame to accuse people of bigotry because they don't enjoy a TV show.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

I never watched it because from what I saw in ads and clips people posted it didn't look lile something I'd enjoy. I can't say if it's bad or not because I haven't watched it.

I think a lot of people who felt the same way are shitting on it regardless of if they watched it or not. Just watch it yourself and form your own opinions. Everyone has their own tastes. If you don't like it skip it and watch something else

[-] Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The same actress was in orphan black and played multiple roles. It's not a woman issue, it's a bad show - https://youtu.be/5LQ7B4TFOu4?si=fL6Miy18eUnKNKBW

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There are many reasons people don't like the show, misogyny, the different tone compared to everything else in the MCU, putting established characters in a different tone than they're used to, and then other more substantial complaints about writing, CGI, etc.

It's often a mixed bag and I've seen a lot of people blame the writing when it was really one of the other factors. Personally, I loved it.

[-] adamcook@mastodon.world 2 points 2 years ago

@Grapetruth

I thought most of it was fun. But I really didn't like the finale. I know breaking the 4th wall is in her comic, but they just broke it too hard. Any emotional stakes that may have existed were blown away. And now, the MCU has to either ignore She-Hulk or fix it.

[-] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Why did you tag me? I'm just wondering because some people do it and some don't

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

This was actually one of those shows where I wondered if the articles about the outrage was manufactured to try and get attention to the show, since I didn't hear anyone actually talk about it. Just didn't seem to have traction among viewers other than articles talking about how people are angry popping up on /r/television back then.

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago

Why does the OP think that She-Hulk ‘got bad ratings’ when it was one of the two most viewed Marvel shows on Disney last year?

That’s right, more people spent more minutes watching She-Hulk than anything other than Loki, including content from other Disney franchises.

Social media outrage & negative review brigading on IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes from a demographic that is mainly male, a certain age & American doesn’t actually represent the majority of those of us paying for Disney+.

Women subsidize content designed for that market all the time,,why the outrage when the rest of the market gets something to their tastes?

[-] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I was primarily basing it on reviews and ratings including IMDb tbh. Fair point, but just out of curiosity, if IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes are unreliable due to review bombing/etc for often reasons unrelated to the project itself (including wanting to "restore the Snyderverse" and boycott Warner Bros, or not liking the fact that a remake of something classic was made in the first place, or political objection to the themes expressed)... what is a good source for determining what the actual public consensus on a show or movie is, ideally with a numeral rating guide like IMDb/Rotten Tomatoes?

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Any social media crowdsourced rating is going to be vulnerable to review bombing/brigading.

You can get some sense of the perspectives with IMDb if you look at not just the score but the distribution of scores (available in the app). A huge spike of 1/10s tells the story.

It’s not that bona fide statisticians can’t get useful data out of crowdsourced surveys, but a public platform like those ones attracts brigading and the score is not adjusted for demographic balance.

[-] pawel@feddit.uk -1 points 2 years ago

I think it was just okay, a couple of episodes even decent. But man the finale 😩 idk I just hated the 'breaking the 4th wall' thing and the rolling back of some events cause the main character didn't like it. I was like 'wtf??' watching it haha

[-] nocturne213@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

I just hated the 'breaking the 4th wall'

Like she has always done?

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