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Tesla should be fined and forced to change when saying or responding with "despite its name self driving is not self driving". They continue to lie. With continued consequences. At the cost of others and the public.
Them responding as such is absurd. Them getting away with that even more so.
It's because during (boasting?) exaggerated claims are often made, so it's totally fiiiine and legal!
Consumer protection is such a sham.
But it is self driving, and it needs to be supervised like the name says.
WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE STILL EXPECTING THIS GARBAGE TO WORK? Tesla’s “full self driving” crashes have been widely covered. Is it simple ignorance? Are they not aware of the news? Is it stubbornness? Laziness? Thinking that “it won’t happen to me”? Do they sincerely believe Musk’s lies?
I know that victim blaming isn’t the answer, and that’s not what I’m doing. I just want to know what’s going on in their heads.
People don't know about the unreliability of such systems. They also don't know how simple Tesla's autopilot is compared to other systems.
As a person who has used OpenCV before, I would never trust a computer vision system. I maybe could trust LiDAR based systems as those can see 3 dimensionally but that's a big "maybe".
The weirdest part to me is that one apple engineer who died in a tesla crash. I have no idea how an engineer working in a software company could trust that thing
Some of the stupidest people I've ever known were brilliant engineers.
Same could be said for many people with very specific doctorates.
As the popular band Smashmouth once sang: 'Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb'.
all this shit is tested in sunny Southern California at day time. None of it works raining or snowing.
I have no idea how an engineer working in a software company could trust that thing
Because many of us are fucking morons. I had one colleague who was writing the control software for a baseball-throwing machine. Despite being way past the deadline and way over budget, the client asked him to create a special version of the software so the machine could be used with Little League teams. He decided to do his first test of this version on a field with actual Little Leaguers on it, which resulted in a 125 mph knuckleball (no spin at all so incredibly erratic in flight) a foot above a 10-year-old kid's head. Which resulted in the only time in my programming career that I had to physically intervene to prevent a fistfight between two people (my boss and the client).
What's mad is there are self-driving vehicles that do actually seem to work. There is even a few that have enough confidence to remove driving controls. But they use LiDAR, the one technology that musk refuse is to incorporate for some reason.
Cost, the reason is cost.
That's like saying that they're going to cut the engine out of a car because it makes the car more expensive. Yeah but it also makes the car work.
Self-driving without lidar is never going to work, and it's likely to get them sued for releasing it like that.
Yes. That's Tesla's entire design philosophy: the industry standard is holding this piece on with 5 bolts? Do it with 3. Cut every corner.
There are analog versions called buses.
I think an analogue version would be a taxi. Buses drive set routes I would hope that the self-driving car can go on all roads not just pre-selected ones.
I still personally know multiple people who still think those are awesome cars.
They're otherwise educated, intelligent people!
I really don't comprehend.
Elon Musk is best friends with Tony Stark. He's a jeanius.
These people locked inside and burning to death are just crashing it wrong.
They should investigate why assholes are still feeding Fascists.
Money.
Case closed.
How is this clearly defective product still on the market?? If any other car manufacturer had "features" that were so consistently causing this much mayhem they would have recalled all vehicles and been held liable.
We don't look at car features in isolation. e.g. seatbelt or airbag could cause injuries too in a crash, but we have them because it's better than not having them.
In the same token self driving doesn't have to be perfect, it just need to be better than humans. I don't know what Tesla's number looks like, just speaking generally.
As a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I am not afraid of getting hurt by failures of other people's seatbelts and airbags.
I know what you're getting at, but there's more at stake here.
This should bump the stock up another $50-60 tomorrow!!
That image reminded me of the incident a few jears ago so i thought it was a repost but the article is from 2025.10.09
How many more times does Tesla's trash excuse of a self-driving system need to be investigated?
Engage N64 Kalimari Desert mode.
That explains them trying to drive through solid fences over and over again
Is that this Hyperloop thing Musk was talking about?
That's a tunnel in Las Vegas, and last I heard it was seeping toxic waste that causes severe chemical burns into said tunnel.
a tunnel in Las Vegas
No that's the Loop. No one has built a hyperloop yet, beyond a few short test tracks.
Who is still buying these things man?
"Full self driving"
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2025
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