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[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 121 points 10 months ago

If you have to use military force to quell civil unrest in your own country, I think you have a problem.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

Apparently I someone needs to bring democracy to USA.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The US should invade the US and bring food and democracy.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 85 points 10 months ago

"Starve or we'll shoot!" doesn't really have the ring they think it does.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

It's more:

Starve, or we'll tell you to beat each other!

It's why it's so stupid he's been fucking with the NG so much and deploying them for bullshit but not long enough for benefits to kick in.

He imagines jackbooted storm troopers cracking heads at a moments notice...

He's going to get people pissed off they're there, agreeing more with protestors than their commanders, and since they can't carry guns, they're going to do everything possible to de-escalate. And all of their training up till this program has been for actual de-escalation.

And at best taking a couple days to show up anywhere, most likely weeks.

There's no scenario this works out how trump wants.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago
[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago

It's not really optimism. Time is a very limiting factor. Numbers are another.

The United States has a tooth to tail ratio of 17%. Every combat unit has about 5 support units. So even though the US has a Military person per capita of about 5 to 1000, they really only have less than 1 combat unit per 1000 people.

They are outnumbered. They are out gunned. They are out maneuvered. It takes 5-6 hours to travel by plane from Canada to Florida. Moving thousands of troops is much longer.

They only have ONE weapon right now. Fear. Intimidation. Shows of force. That won't win in the long term.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Lots of things can happen, a few of which would actually be good things.

We need to look for those things early, to try and help our slim odds of improving things.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Also if ATC continues to implode there's a solid chance it could be up to a week without planes to move troops.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

I think ATCs would selectively work. Namely, to transport Allied ReUnion troops to where they need to go, while botching or denying service to the Neo Confederate Axis.

One side wants to pay federal workers and be boring, the other abuses them.

[-] Master167@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago

Why would there be unrest in all 50 states, Pete? Is there something on the calendar?

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 10 months ago

Halloween (it scawy)

[-] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

They're going to fuck with the elections.

[-] collar@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

This. It’s all in preparation for 2026 and if needed, 2028.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ok Pete, the biggest national security the US faces is people starving, getting kicked out of housing situations and losing access to healthcare they can afford.

Can we deploy the National Guard to feed people and administer healthcare? If not, why not? What else would this organization need to be focused MORE on?

How about we deploy the National Guard to build affordable housing? If we can't do that, why can't we do that? Do you not consider the housing situation in the US a crisis? If you do not believe there is a housing affordability crisis in the US can you please stare straight into the camera and repeat that assertion so we can clip it and raise awareness that you are an enemy of the US people?

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Having the Army Corps of Engineers build a million houses would be incredible for this country

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 10 months ago

My best guess? The next time there's a "No Kings" protest, they'll use plainclothes plants to instigate violence and use these units to crack in everyone's skulls. For this reason, I think that peaceful protests need to be diligent about watching out for such instigators to the point of restraining them ourselves.

Even if you're in favor of riots, helping these false flag Nazis will be a terrible idea. In all cases you must give them exactly the opposite of what they want, and what they want is to crackdown on a scale we've never seen before. Center protests on the failing economy and rising poverty and let how they attack you say everything you need to about the government.

[-] graycube@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

They tried this in the last no kings, but it didn't work.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

These fuckers are all too weird to blend in even in Portland. They've been spotted immediately from what I hear. Let that sink in.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

its actually easy to spot a plaincloths, in s store setting to. they often wear jeans, and act very shady like a shoplifter would. plus you might able to see thier handgun, cuffs. and lets not forget sunglasses to hide thier face. also the fact they dress very differently from a protestor too.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

And there were counter instigators at every protest too. I only heard of one in the south where they needed to step in.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago

I think the formal creation of Rainbow Panthers would be helpful. They are the defiant wing of the protest movement, and by formalizing their existence, it becomes possible for them to vet and deal with weird instigators.

We want two Spiderman pointing at Venom, and agreeing to deal with the imposter.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

If we just demonstrate as clearly as possible that we're not a threat to them, they'll have no choice but to give in to our demands!

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

there have been agitators in BLM protests in the past, and i would imagine there have been some in the kings protest. the ones were often done by right wing influencers, like NGO and others.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

And I'm telling you that they'll be doing it more frequently and with federal support. They'll be more organized and intentional about it than before.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago

So now that he has the SS and SA in full swing with ICE and Border Patrol, its time to form the Einsatzgruppen?

[-] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH UNREST ACROSS 50 STATES, PETE?

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It seems odd that no-one in the military has decided these clowns should piss off yet given how they are treating veterans. Everyone currently in the military will one day be a veteran, the country is basically saying that on retirement day it'll be all ”thanks for your service, now go fuck yourself". You'd think with that in mind they'd be taking the first potential constitutional crisis and marching on the capital to take some heads.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

the country is basically saying that on retirement day it’ll be all ”thanks for your service, now ~~go fuck yourself~~ pick up that can".

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sounds a lot like Rapid Support Forces. Setting themselves up for a coup.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 10 months ago

Because of... the peaceful No Kings marches!? They're offended that millions of Americans reject sliding into fascism? Or because of the future starving people because Republicans chose to stop the SNAP food benefits that have already been approved and funded? With the GOP, the cruelty is the point...

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

No, this is in preparation for the unrest that they're planning to cause.

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I like Pete better when he hits himself in the nuts with a skateboard.

[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 10 points 10 months ago

Oh, thank God. As long as it's Hegseth setting it up we'll be fine. Just make sure we schedule the revolution for sometime near last call and he'll drunkenly send the troops to the wrong place.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

yes people uttering antisemitic "attacks" when they disagree with Israel's genocide or portlanders wearing inflatable frog or trex suits means we need a national QRF to deloy the military against civilians. I wonder where he is getting all the money to do these useless nonsense things? It cant be cheap.

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