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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Saw this around 19h ago when it first started making waves and I’ve been background pondering it all day

Because

Just how the fuck do you make this mistake at stage size event? Stage lighting is a “you contact a gear company for that” level thing, for it to be any good

By the images available, this didn’t seem like a slapdash setup. And while it is possible that this might’ve been the result of “eh, why do we need to pay for all that rental? Let’s just do it ourselves, with NFTs, blackjack, hookers, and blow” I’m not sure how likely that is

It takes some truly stunning incompetence and clusterfucks to achieve. Now, don’t get me wrong, the coiners and apes have that solidly covered, but still. Been an itch on my brain for hours.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

realistically, the attendees are likely not going to fully recover their eyesight.

Seems inappropriate to laugh about this. People spending a fortune on a worthless ugly monkey png deserve ridicule, but not permanent eye damage just because they went to a party with their fellow marks.

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

good call. I edited my post a little so hopefully it reflects my point better — eyes are delicate as fuck, and it’s very foolish for yuga labs and some of their bagholders to try and minimize how dangerous this situation was, since getting timely medical care after severe eye damage is crucial if you want to keep your sight (I may have some recent experience with that last part)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you try to look the basilisk in the eye

[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Don't look at the abysss

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

damn...it makes too much sense that it's cheaper in bulk... I was giving them the benefit of the doubt that they paid more thinking it would be some kind of premium black light.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hmm, when I looked up the medical term the resources assured me symptoms were temporary - but if this is the third time this specific thing has happened recently, he might know from experience that this will not go well long term

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I guess it might depend on repeat exposure per person?

I also couldn’t find much ito dosing discussions around the condition, so I have no idea what the effect impact of this may be at 1h vs 4h vs 8h+ etc

Either which way, remarkable clusterfuck

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is the third UVC incident in recent years. realistically, the attendees are likely not going to fully recover their eyesight.

contrast with the cryptobro toxic positivity from the attendees quoted in the 404 article:

“Thanks for great apefest logistiscs guys @yugalabs & @BoredApeYC. Incredible event and met plenty of amazing people,” one wrote. “Still, as dozens of others, I’ve almost lost sight this night.” They suggested others get their eyes checked like they did, and said their eyes were burned by UV.

[–] m@blat.at 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@froztbyte The stage contractor is often a different company to the lighting contractor, and it wouldn’t surprise me too much if they blew enough of the budget on the stage and PA that they decided lighting could be a DIY job. Bet they didn’t bother with public liability insurance either, although as this was gross negligence their cover might be void anyway. With any luck they’ll get taken for every JPEG they have in the bank.

[–] m@blat.at 5 points 1 year ago

@froztbyte Ah, the mighty Big Clive has spoken on the subject. https://youtu.be/6DlfLthx89E?feature=shared

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago

The light of innovation burns brightly, and still you doubt!

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the quotes in the 404media article are fucking incredible — not even physical injury will make crypto true believers drop the kayfabe

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 5 points 1 year ago

@self @gerikson "dozens of people you care about" lol

[–] athos77@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

If your eyes are exposed to UV‑C, you will experience Photokeratitis which is inflammation of the cornea. This condition typically resolves itself in 24-48 hours. Source

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

would UV-C lighting be considerably more expensive? Would there have been obvious high-costs to tip them off that these were no regular black lights?

[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Not really. Fluorescent UVC lights are very similar to black lights, they just don't have the fluorescent coating inside the glass. LED lighting also shouldn't have been significantly more expensive.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Nah, they're like $20.