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[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 279 points 9 months ago

Every damn power plant is a glorified steam engine

[-] hades@feddit.uk 167 points 9 months ago

Except solar. And wind. And hydro.

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 151 points 9 months ago

Some solar is also boiling water

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[-] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 40 points 9 months ago

Expect for solar, it's all just flowy stuff through spinny stuff: wind, water, steam. GRAAAAAAAAAA

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 9 months ago

Good ol' mill.

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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

And wind.

wind is just the effects of premade steam

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[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 87 points 9 months ago

We’re living in a steampunk world after all

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 39 points 9 months ago

I'm a steampunk girl

In a steampunk world

It's not a big big thing if you steam me

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[-] mossberg590@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

Readily available, low boiling point, non corrosive (relatively), and ecologically safe. What more do you want?

[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Also a ridiculously high heat capacity. It does make sense.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 129 points 9 months ago

One of the fusion startups says they can use the plasma B field directly. Basically making the plasma the rotor in an electric generator to induce current in a wire.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago

I really like this concept, wonder how viable it really is though.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 51 points 9 months ago

It seems promising, they're acting like they're close. They've been promising concrete deliverables, I think they're supposed to have a working model that can actually capture the energy next year

You never know, but they're called Triton if you want to check them out. They don't share progress often, but when they do it seems pretty candid about their progress

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Please don't let it be another Theranos, please don't let it be another Theranos 🙏

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[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 60 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of one of my favorite photos, a steam engine being delivered by steam engine!

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[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 53 points 9 months ago

I wonder if nuclear would get more traction If it was pitched as enhanced steam power instead

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"It's a blockchain of an highly enhanced hydrogen process. Thanks to its AI quantum mechanism it manages to increase the energy output by a ton through its cloud."

Just tell that to investors and they'll gobble it up. /s

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wonder how fast we could get a steam train to go if we stuck a suitably shaped non-critical amount of plutonium in the firebox.

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 17 points 9 months ago

And replace the pistons with a turbine...

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 21 points 9 months ago

And replace the locomotive with a Delorean.

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[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago

Reading the comments, it would seem most everyone here thinks that the usefulness of the steam is done when it gets used to turn a turbine at high pressure.

The steam can be used for much more than once. In the 1800's and early 1900s when steam ran trains and ships, they built double and triple expansion engines that took the energy of the steam two and three times before it was done. It doesn't need to be one and done. And when the energy is done being harvested for power generation, it can used for other things. Engineers today aren't dumber than the ones in the 1800s.

I can remember a small rural Minnesota town that had their own coal fired electric plant. (Built back before the REA was a thing). They took the left over steam from power generation and then piped it to around 200 homes in the town and heated them with the leftover steam. While a bit costly to install, it was dirt cheap to run. Those homes lost all that when the power plant was shut down and they had to switch to either natural gas, fuel oil, LP, or electricity.

So don't get hung up on just the power generation. Think what could be beyond that point.

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[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

Low key this is a great way to convince people to switch away from fossil fuels.

Most people seemingly don't know that coal/gas stations work by essentially boiling water. Most are horrified at how trashy and underdeveloped the concept is compared to high tech alternatives like solar, wind, or hydro.

[-] Geobloke@aussie.zone 24 points 9 months ago

Well, hydro is just spinning water again, wind is spinning air. Solar is stealing electrons from the sun (i think?) So that's cool

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago

Well, the sun is sending them to us, so it's not really stealing!

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

stealing

reappropriating :D

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We live in a Steampunk world without Steampunk aesthetics. 😩

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[-] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

It's always been about finding new ways to spin a turbine

[-] SmokeyDope@piefed.social 25 points 9 months ago

"Dyson Spheres? Look, playing with sunlight and mirrors was a fun side project, but you want to know a much more advanced method of generating power?"

"Please dont...."

"Thats right! By hurling entire water worlds into a star, we then capture the released steam which powers our gravitationally locked dynamo network."

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[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's only 3 major ways to transform different forms of energy into electricity, which are:

  • solar panels (light -> electricity)
  • mechanical engines/generators (mechanical movement -> electricity)
  • electrochemical battery (chemical dipole -> electricity)

there's a whole lot more, such as thermoelectric generator and piezoelectricity but these are the three significant ones.

note that i distinguish these categories by their core essence, such as whether they're using changes in magnetic flux (like a mechanical generator) or transferring 1 photon on each electron (like solar panels), instead of looking at what source type of energy they transform.

because there's many ways to transform e.g. light energy into electricity. you could also heat water with the sunlight and then drive a steam engine with it. but that's not what i care about. i care about the fundamental connection between different types of energy, and how they can be directly transformed to one another.

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[-] MissingGhost@lemmy.ml 21 points 9 months ago

Living somewhere that makes 90+% of its electricity from hydro, I am slightly confused.

[-] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 24 points 9 months ago

Most modern means of electricity production involve creating heat in some way, then using that heat to boil water, creating steam. That steam is then used to turn a turbine, which generates electricity.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 21 points 9 months ago

use cherenkov radiation to power photovoltaic array.

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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 19 points 9 months ago

Well, you can apparently also use supercritical carbon dioxide.

That might be fun.

But you're basically still boiling something to make it spin a magnet.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

There are actually versions of fusion reactors that use the magnetic fields generated by the plasma in order to make electricity directly.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 18 points 9 months ago

Just pipe the electroplasma directly into the workstations. Sure, sometimes this results in dangerous overloads during adverse conditions, but that's what the Cordry rocks are for.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 9 months ago

Wasn't there one concept too with catching neutrons directly to ...generate heat, ah right.

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