This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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It’s fairly clear from the sidebar that the community positions itself against ML/grad.
The moderator is well known for being hostile to “tankies”. At the same time .ml itself has banned Deceptichum from communities they’ve never engaged with based purely on their ideological values so it feels hypocritical to complain about them doing the same unless you also disagree with .ml's moderation.
I got banned from a dozen out so communities cause I had the gall to claim Hasan did actually shock his dog.
What's funny is they cite "serial down voter".
My siblings in baahl, I never even knew those communities existed, and votes are public, and I very rarely down vote anything. Like it really is 50:1 ratio.
I have read a few times that .ml bans people for downvoting anything.
Yes.
Free the Uyghurs, fuck China.
Fuck the incoming clowns who will say “butt Adrian Zenz and cia color ops”.
Also hilarious you link to your tankie circlejerk thread than the original.
And I did not reply to you after banning and removing your last comment, so you’re also outright lying.
"Fuck the incoming clowns who will inevitably and correctly point out the complete absence of evidence for any claims presented here" lol good one
What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?
What would you think of someone who regularly defended a country that supports foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist Hitler and Mussolini supporting intellectuals?
What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?
That depends, is there evidence of these things and they're contradicting that evidence? Even Wikipedia, one of the most lib sources of all, does not have an article for Uyghur genocide. Armenian genocide? Check. Gaza genocide? Check. Uyghurs? Persecution of Uyghurs in China. This isn't a good thing, mind you, but there's a qualitative difference between persecution and genocide.
Also, if you're in the west and examining Uyghur persecution in China more than Black persecution in the states or Romani persecution in Europe, it may be time to examine the plank in your eye before the speck in China's.
What would you think of someone who regularly defended a country that supports foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist Hitler and Mussolini supporting intellectuals?
Ah, the old double genocide theory (about 30 years old, in fact). Look that one up on Wikipedia too while you're at it. Good little bedtime story for Nazi collaborators.
I notice you prefered to avoid answering my question about foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals, intellectuals who openly admired Hitler and Mussolini. Instead you brought up the double genocide, which wasn't relevant to my question.
Why do you think it is that you'd rather not answer a question about leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals and the countries that support them?
What would you think if someone tried to change the topic when you asked them a question related to polticians quoting fascist intellectuals?
Where would you think their political affiliations lie?
https://lemmy.ml/post/41654379/23321470
Here's a link to my reply to you from 30 minutes ago which addresses every point you bring up here. I'll copy the relevant parts below.
I notice you prefered to avoid answering my question about foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals, intellectuals who openly admired Hitler and Mussolini.
Why do you think it is that you’d rather not answer a question about leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals and the countries that support them?
What would you think if someone tried to change the topic when you asked them a question related to polticians quoting fascist intellectuals?
Even if we accept whatever you’re trying to say here completely at face value, is your stance that someone who says “this specific claim about China is not supported by credible evidence” has to then answer for every single thing any leader in any country ever supported in any way by China has said?
Instead you brought up the double genocide, which wasn’t relevant to my question.
What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?
Yes, you're correct that if there was an overwhelming amount of credible evidence from an almost uncountable number of sources (including the people committing genocide bragging about it) it would be different.
There's no equivalence there. Treating these two things as equivalent minimizes (possibly even rises to the level of denying) the actual genocide.
I notice you prefered to avoid answering my question about foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals, intellectuals who openly admired Hitler and Mussolini. Instead you brought up the double genocide, which wasn't relevant to my question.
Let's see if that's true. What were you referring to with leaders who quote fascist intellectuals, because my point in referencing double genocide was the "Red Fash" trope that libs refer to often, but there may have been a misunderstanding.
What would you think if someone tried to change the topic when you asked them a question related to polticians quoting fascist intellectuals?
You seem to have found this an intriguing point to hone in on, willingly ignoring the rest of the points I and others had mentioned as well. If we're making such inferences, what does that infer about you?
What do you think it infers about me?
That you're intellectually dishonest, a real dialog with you isn't possible, and I'd have a more coherent conversation with a dog, thus this conversation is now over.
You are indeed correct that a real dialog isn't possible with people who are intellectually dishonest to others and themselves.
Especially when it comes to certain world leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals.
Chickenshit response
Thank you for the compliment.
Hey, here's a 'fun' quote for you:
The country China is supporting and all your cosplay communist friends on hexbear and .ml can't help but make excuses for.
Gee, wonder why people don't treat you with the respect you deserve! SO UNFAIR!
Lol sorry China isn't meeting your personal moral standards, maybe you should send them a strongly worded letter about it
Also hilarious you link to your tankie circlejerk thread than the original.
Eh, I thought I was cross posting 🤷♀️ The modlog links to the thread anyway, but I'm sure this was a huge win for you 👍
And I did not reply to you after banning and removing your last comment, so you’re also outright lying.
Indeed, you were the only person in the thread who could have replied to anything, but please tell me more about your leftist/anarchist/whatever values that you undoubtedly have.
Indeed, you were the only person in the thread who could have replied to anything
You claimed I banned you and replied to you after so that I could get the last word in, that's been proven false. Why are you lying?
Eh, I thought I was cross posting
FYI, on Lemmy you can (unlike some websites) edit your post to change the link or remove the link and include all the information in the post body.
China is persecuting the Uyghurs, they are forcing them into harsh programs to strip them of their non-Chinese cultural aspects. Some academics see this as a type of genocide, as they are effectively erasing a culture/ethnicity. Most feel there has to be a physical displacement, or mass killings in an attempt to destroy their people, to truly qualify for this label. I am on the side of the latter. I can understand the former's argument, but I think cultural erasure, rather than physical displacement/mass killing, should be a separate atrocity. Looking at what OP has been saying, it seems they believe this too.
Only thing I really see on leftist spaces that bothers me, in this arena, is the people who will argue as I do about the Uyghurs, but consider the residential schools of North America a genocide. The natives went through a real genocide, cultural erasure was a clear step back in depravity. An atrocity none-the-less, just not THE atrocity.
Anything's possible when you make shit up
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There is no link to the content, or the modlog in your post, just a link to another community where you also posted this...
Weird, must be my front-end then, sorry about that! Linking now: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=19596601
Weird that ML is a reason when that's not in the rules. Wonder why they don't block the instance or have a rule against them posting.
PTB though. Persecution is bullshit but not the same as a genocide.
free of the “ML” influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.
It's right there in the sidebar buddy.
Persecution is bullshit but not the same as a genocide.
Forced re-education and destruction of culture is literally genocide. Not to mention the literal slavery.
(How's this for a 'school')
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/24/china-running-380-detention-centres-in-xinjiang-researchers I know, I know Al Jazeera is a big bad Western information source /s
Your article is dogshit.
"Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) said it had identified more than 380 “suspected detention facilities” in the region"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Strategic_Policy_Institute
A defense contractor think-tank says it has identified "suspected detention facilities" and provides exactly zero evidence to substantiate that claim. Did you not bother reading this at all before posting it or were you just hoping nobody else would?