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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

immigration hurts the environment

Never heard that one before

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

Never heard that one before

It's regularly trotted out here in Australia, laughably they say our environmental party, The Greens are really be pro environment because they support immigration.

I had several arguments in Mastodon during the last federal elections on that very issue.

[–] Denvil@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

It hurts THEIR environment. How can they have their ideal environment of a suburban home in a cul-de-sac if the neighbor isn't white? (And maybe also because they can't afford to buy a house with all the billionaires hoarding everything, but mostly that guy in particular not being white)

[–] GooseGang@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Shhh don’t pay attention to the multinational corporations behind the curtain 🤫

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I mean, the larger part of mammalian biomass is humans and their livestock...

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 4 months ago

Imagine if it was possible for humans to eat something else :(

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 5 points 4 months ago

More than ⅔ of avian biomass is livestock, too.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly. We are populated to a point where there is little option but to rely on oil extraction to create enough fertilizer to feed 8 billion people.

Admitting that we have an issue with overpopulation does not necessarily justify gutting social programs and accelerating the demise of the poor. Rather it should inspire us to consider the best path forward - increased access to birth control and education, improved farming methods, reducing the amount of nature we impinge upon, accepting that perpetual GDP growth is not sustainable and moving towards an economic system that emphasizes quality of life.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, we can decrease the population overall, but that is at odds with the endless geowth needs of Capitalism.

Fortunately, people are doing that anyway in most countries because cost of living and lack of basic safety nets in society are both ass.

But Capitalism refuses to adapt, so the assholes running shit are panicking.

[–] diablomnky666@lemmy.wtf 5 points 4 months ago

Choosing not to reproduce is a long term way to size the means of production. Reducing the size of the available workforce means they have more leverage over capital and can resist exploitation more effectively.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, humouring Malthusian talking points hurts everyone, not just Malthusians which would be ideal.

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Fantastic. That should be a post of its own.

[–] uberfreeza@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Heard the first but not the second, and my major was one where 50% would have agreed with Thanos. Immigration is basically necessary with climate change, since rising sea levels (among other things) displace people. But otherwise I agree, since I graduated with a bunch of ecofacists.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thing is, immigration needs to be done in a controlled, orderly way. People who come here need to integrate into society. But that's not what is happening, in fact, literally the opposite. Europe does not control whatsoever who comes in and the member countries have no plans how to integrate them and many migrants don't really show the will to integrate, either. This leads to the formation of parallel societies with the same problematic cultures and values from the countries the migrants fled from. We don't need this kind of immigration, that's why a lot of people are against it.

[–] hugh@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago

Yes, it’s wild how the immigrants don’t want to integrate into societies that consistently elect politicians who want to eradicate their religion, consistently side with regimes that have bombed their friends and families, and abuse them in the street. The solution is clearly to continue to elect those politicians.

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes numbers and statistical data is racism /s

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Statistics can in fact be intentionally skewed to favour bigoted viewpoints. Even without changing the observed data, it can often be done just by reframing the conclusions.

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a you problem, maybe become an adult an learn to interpret the data for yourself instead of lazily wanting the tv to do it for you like a boomer

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re a small minded case study in Dunning-Kruger leading someone to fall for Malthusian propaganda spread by bigots and fascists.

Other than that? No idea what their problem is. Maybe not enough fiber in their diet.

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow you guys sure are cool how is that working out for you in real life lol.

[–] zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well if you’d like to know, not too terrible. I have a partner who loves me, a Mom who’s just the best, a community of friends who support me, and I’m intellectually fulfilled. These days I’m pursuing a new career as well as a new series of degrees. Switching from IT to healthcare with a focus on teaching.

Thanks for asking!

Look at this guy his mom is proud if him

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm not the one here preaching about how all statistics is always correct, but you do you. Maybe you should also do some research on where those conveniently racist numbers come from, eh?

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you're a people dont kill people its the guns and tomahawk missiles kinda guy how interesting.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You really took two days interpreting my comment and still had to make shit up

My bad bro sorry I have a life outside of posting dumb shit on the net

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gunther No.

Gunther! put than the spear!! No bad Gunther