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[two characters are talking]
Vaccines have saved millions of lives you know

[a blue character points at them proudly]
Heh, look at those idiots over there, they believe in the most obvious propaganda

[the blue character is shown doing various faces]
Anyway, did you know communism killed 100 million people?
I've seen that 20% of the people commit 80% of the crime
Our military keeps the world a safer place
Everyone starts with opportunities, you have to earn your place in society, work harder

[sixteen variations of the blue character are shown on a multicolored grid]
Crime is out of control and keeps getting worse
Men are natural leaders, women's nature is to nurture
Billionaires create jobs
Poor people just keep making bad decisions in life
Migrants are taking our jobs
Socialism is when we all share the same paycheck
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
If minimum wages go up, everyone will get fired, it's math
We brought modernity to the countries we colonized
The wage gap is a myth you're just looking at it wrong
Immigration mathematically causes crime
Developing countries are poor because of corruption
We are the good guys
If workers were worth more, they would be paid more
Universal healthcare is communism
Patriotism means supporting the troops

[a large drawing of a serious Garfield is surrounded by the infinitely repeating phrase]
YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA

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[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 103 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A Russian and an American get on a plane in Moscow and get to talking.

The Russian says he works for the Kremlin and he's on his way to go learn American propaganda techniques.

"What American propaganda techniques?" asks the American.

"Exactly," the Russian replies.

[–] Bad@jlai.lu 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] meejle@piefed.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't see rofl nearly enough nowadays

[–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

And even more rarely the famed roflcopter.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone needs to make a quiz out of these. I don't see any I believe but I know people who are politically aligned with me who do and and I'm sure the list could be expanded many fold.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see a few I believe, and cant be sure I've been suckered with propaganda or if I'm being gaslit here.

But they dont actually affect my day to day so whatever.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In an effort to educate, would you be willing to comment one you do believe that we can talk about?

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I pretty much believe the wage gap is nonsense. Maybe at higher levels, or in freelance work or something, but I worked service jobs most of my life and the girls got bigger raises simply for being attractive girls, and most of my bosses have been women. The debate only ever seems to start up to rile people up against eachother. I always feel like pic related when it comes up.

Edit : maybe they account globally, including weird countries where women aren't allowed to work and also including Elon Musk in that figure? The stats can be played with so much to paint whatever narrative you want.

Also the 20% of people committing 80% of crime. I'd never heard that until now but the 80/20 thing comes up so often that it immediately rings true. I'm not in any way invested in criminal activity though so I'm not sure what I would be expected to do with that belief.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Setting aside that historically male dominated fields make more money than felmale dominated fields do..

In the states, I have noticed, the wage gap isnt so much woman/man as it is parents/non parents. the default parent is getting called out of work for the sick child, for said childs dr appointments, for said childs half days and vacations. The default parent is usually, still today, a woman. So while the starting wage for a guy and a lady may be the same, overtime, a mother (or yes some fathers) with a child she is the default for, is going to miss work time, she may be passed up for promotion or other projects, a manager may overlook her because she has parental responsiblities. That last part, men in the same role will often be promoted if he has a family, and its the opposite for mothers.

Also

girls got bigger raises simply for being attractive girls

imagine not being a conventional attractive woman. There are tons of capable, confident young women who old pervy managers just dont find hot. There is a coffee shop near me, known to only hire "attractive" young women. I didnt even bother to apply knowing this, when I have hella exp. working in coffee shops. I got fired from planet fitness, the only job ive ever been fired from, excuse me, "let go", and it was because of how I looked. (mind you I was fit, but I have boxy shoulders, had short hair, and didnt fit this dudes republican barbie aethstetic.)

So that swings a lotta ways man.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't think the wage gap exists as a blanket "women get paid $0.70 for the same job a man makes $1" While that definitely still exists in some sectors, I think the issue is much more deep seated systemically, and that's why it can be hard to pin down. Women are more likely to be in lower paying positions. They are more likely to skip out on career growth due to having/raising children. Women's performance is evaluated more harshly than men's, so they end up working more hours to ensure they don't lose their jobs. This isn't an extensive list by any means, but that's the type of issues that can result in women's work to be considered less valuable than a man's.

This is why it's important for programs that combat these types of issues to exist. I know that anecdotally, especially in the service industry, it's easy to say women can make more money, are more likely to be managers, etc. I've seen that as well, but the service industry isn't exactly a high-playing sector. This is a demonstration of my first point that women are more likely to be in lower paying positions.

Also, I think it's pretty lame that you're getting downvoted for saying your stance in an effort to allow yourself to be educated. I think that it's impressive to admit blind spots if your goal is to improve.

Oh, and for the 20% of people committing 80% of the crime, that one is probably close to accurate just numerically, the problem is that people say this is true because the 20% committing crimes aren't white, which is empirically untrue.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lots of people tackled the wage deal, but I want to talk about the 80/20 deal. That statistic is real: 80% of violent crime really is committed by 20% of the population, and a larg part of that 20 is African American males.

However, where did we GET that statistic? Conviction records. This is where the stat really breaks down, at least I believe, because we have failed to properly interpret it. Black men receive harsher sentences, receive convictions of higher natures, (first vs second degree manslaughter) are less likely to receive parole, and overall fare worse in the justice system than any other race, even when you compare against the same crimes.

Police presence is also always higher in poorer neighborhoods, and black families make a disproportionate amount of families in those neighborhoods. Arrests occur where there are police, not where there are crimes.

[–] Peluri96@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, it really depends where you are located and what field of work you are in. Where I am from in Europe, wages are different per employee. When you account for women working more often in part time, work in lesser paid care jobs (which is BTW also sexist that jobs mostly done by women get paid less) and that they tend to stay at home more often for the kids and all the other stuff, you still end up with something like 6% of wage difference for the same work that you can not account to anything. Wherever you are from, I think you can look that easily up in some academic literature what and how they adjust these things. What this actually boils down to is that talking about your wages with your coworkers helps and that unions and collective wage agreements are the hot shit.

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[–] abc@suppo.fi 12 points 2 weeks ago

And of course this comic is also propaganda.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Not exactly brave to question the propaganda your peer group already disagrees with.

Anyway, did you know communism killed 100 million people?

Yes it's unlikely it's as high as 100M, but it's probably ~50M. About 10M died of famine in the Soviet Union and around 40M in China. 1.2M to 2.2M were killed by the Khmer Rouge, a lot of people died in various civil wars fomented by communist regimes, and of course many died in gulags and as forced labour.

So the image above is doing a strawman style argument claiming that there are people that say "communism killed 100M people", and saying that this is "propaganda". Saying communism killed 100M is technically false (but who said that?), the number isn't likely to be 100M. But it's leaving out the part about communism killing ~50M people worldwide, because the goal is to make the audience think that all claims about communism resulted in a lot of people are dying are false. The goal is not to have discussion on what the actual number is, it's implying that communism didn't kill people.

That's the nature of propaganda, isn't it? Give a filtered version of the world and provide people with half truths and assume they won't bother to seek out the full truth.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trying to count up the number of people killed by any ideology is, essentially, a nonsense game which can be spun any number of ways and doesn't tell us anything meaningful.

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[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Imma give you some flack for copy-pasting the same face 16x in the bottom, I imagine that part looking really neat with just slightly different faces.

Also the ones about immigration really bother me. Like, I couldn't tell you how anyone would have a direct financial interest in fewer immigrants coming into a country. So why would anyone propagandise that? I think just because xenophobia is effective for getting a party into power that can help your actual interest. I'm positive that the all rich people supporting anti-immigration campaigns don't care about immigration at all and are willing to trample over those people just to get some purchasable asshole into power.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay so sit down...

Xenophobia is a tool to divide the working class and buy complacency of certain groups in exchange for being told they are special or more worthy than others.

It is also used to create scapegoats for the harms caused by the capitalists.

Once you understand that you can see why people having solidarity with marginalized groups they don't belong to isn't virtue signaling, it's the only path forward.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay so stand up

Yeah that's what I was trying to say, the propagandists use xenophobia as a pretext to get power in order to get policies through that have nothing to do with immigration. Xenophobia is a means to an end for them and they don't mind ruining some people's lives if that allows them to get power for other goals.

It bothers me so much because this is not hateful people being assholes because they're hateful. This is privileged, powerful people being assholes because it happens to be convenient to them.

[–] Peluri96@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like, I couldn’t tell you how anyone would have a direct financial interest in fewer immigrants coming into a country

Polish here. I can answer that using my country as an example. I will be using "I" statement in the scenarios.

Scenario A: I am a low wage worker. I see poor migrants coming in and being hired for less for Uber, Uber Eats, McDonalds and similar "entry jobs". I see corporations enshittifying the pay and work conditions. I blame the workforce surplus, as it allowed that enshittification (literally the high number of drivers in UberEats compared to orders is what allowed Uber to fuck it up in Poland). I blame the migrants - if they didn't come, there would be no surplus of the workforce, thus no enshittification. I could've also blamed corporations or government that allows such abomination as gig work, but the direct link is migration.

Scenario B: I am a middle wage worker. I live in a big city. There is limited number of apartments to buy or rent, of good quality (public transportation, distance to work, parks, other amenities). New constructions take place on edges of the city, thus it increases the commute time significantly, there's no good restaurants there yet etc etc etc. I see influx of migrants to the city, this leads to rent increase and apt price increase because more people want to buy rent than without migrants. I could've blamed the landlors or the government for allowing the speculations or "investment buying" and keeping them empty (e. g. I live in Warsaw Poland, according to national office of statistics 20% of apartments in the city are kept empty by private owners, including pension funds from Scandinavia, to not "deflate" the prices) and untaxed.

Btw: both scenarios are visible to the population only when there's a sudden spike in migration of (poor) workers or refugees, keyword "spike" - which is what happened in Poland.

First our anti-immigration USA-loving right wing government PIS allowed entry of 6.1 M (in a country of 38M) of foreigners (which is about 10 times more than the previous pro-immigration government, I shit you not), mostly to fill in low wage positions (Scenario A) and to let USA corporations spreading through the country like a cancer establish "gig work".

Then during invasion of Ukraine we got another spike in migrants, but this time a lot of middle-wage ones (and prices of apartments in big cities skyrocketed, again 20% are artificially empty) - Scenario B.

So as someone else mentioned in the thread:

It is also used to create scapegoats for the harms caused by the capitalists

Yup. Literally this.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

That is fair enough. I should have been more specific because what I meant to say is that I don't see how anyone with the financial means to create a propaganda campaign would be interested in fewer immigrants.

But then again, that is kinda the job of a party. A party composed of and voted for by the people you mention would be exactly that.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t think this is a good example of this idea as everything the blue character says is fairly obviously propaganda. They should choose something that’s actually fairly believable if they want to make this point.

[–] bmpvy@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But we are the good guys, aren't we? :'(

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[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is just common sense. #gramsci

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