Nah man China is like a utopia or something.
this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2026
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you ain't lived till you been to the democratic people's republic of north korea
Yeah man they keep voting for the same guy every single time, like everyone. He must be a great leader.
See, it specifically says the PEOPLE are democratic. It just doesn't matter because the GOVERNMENT is despotic. 😌
Nah the propaganda told me it's all the leader's good work making the country so amazing.
China seems to have positive and negative characteristics. For the non-rich it seems slightly better than the US and worse than (say) Norway. They’re still imperialist although they seem more inclined to use soft power and economic relationships rather than warfare.
Turns out geopolitics isn't simple.
The point is not that you need to unquestioningly think that China is the most evil country on earth. The point is that there absolutely are a notable subset of leftists (just wander over to .ml if you want to find them) who will dismiss literally any criticism of China as "Western propaganda" and basically act like they're absolute paragons of good. Those are the people being called out here.
Not sure how accurate the numbers are but this seems to show suicide rates per 100,000 are at 8.9 for China, and 15.6 for the U.S.
That might actually be more about the guns than the despair
True, but people who want to die will find a way. When I was younger I remember there was a sudden influx of people who realized you could speed into the back of an 18 wheeler and the hood/bottom of your car would go under, and the payload crate would crush your head/upper body near instantly.
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ok, so significantly better than the US
Yeah, that was 16 years ago and I think that was actually highly publicized and ended up changing things in favor of workers.
China also has a very fast justice system where there's no jury so they just put you in front of a judge and then shoot you out back.
But I've just read stuff on the internet and don't have much first hand experience so hopefully people with more first hand knowledge can correct this. Also open to new kinds of propaganda, both sides ya know
Yes, I'm sure their workers rights are so much better now. I'm sure BYD in China is totally different from the near slavery from BYD in Hungary.
Greetings from Hanoi. China kills Vietnamese and Philippine fisherman and other mariners each year using their paramilitary shadow fleet. China is also a big place and the difference between non-rich in a developed province and non-rich in the rural provinces is extreme. In the last decade, the size of the middle class in places like Shanghai has shrunk dramatically and was arguably never even on par with similar level workers in the USA.
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The thing is china has a bunch of legit cool stuff about it but its never even the stuff that gets highlighted and instead these communities just infinitely recite the propaganda that is thought to them. Its one thing to like china(which is already a red flag cause you shouldnt like a huge imperialistic dictatorship) but another thing to mindlessly recite it.
I dunno it's pretty easy to think China has some really cool things but also acknowledge it's a terrible place
China is awesome. Its people are awesome. Its philosophy/culture is great. Its government is doing some awesome things.
The notion that shame should be felt over that view is absurd.
That doesn’t mean they don’t have problems.
One can admire/envy/enjoy China and acknowledge they are an authoritarian state, have some worrying cultural issues, a strongman leader, a bloody history, censored discourse and so on.
These views aren’t mutually exclusive.
And as for the “western imperialist” rhetoric, that has precisely nothing to do with China’s problems. It’s irrelevant whataboutism.
And it’s especially ironic given most of it on Lemmy is spouted from users in western nations.
For reference: Lemmy.ml is banned in China.
a red flag
Nice
This is why I personally like to use the cool shit Yugoslavia did. Obscure by western standards and the only ones who get weird about it are Serbs.
Genocide bad
I can see your imminent ban in my crystal ball.
noo :<
What a brave take!
Shitting on the CCP in any ML community will get you banned for "orientalism"
I specifically said the people of China are nice but the CCP can go fuck itself
I met couple of Chinese who acknowledge the party is tyrannical but they avoid delving deeper into politics. Despite having emigrated, it's a learned response I guess for many Chinese not to talk about politics.
I met couple of Chinese who acknowledge the party is tyrannical but they avoid delving deeper into politics.\
This is because it's illegal to criticize the CCP in China. You can get arrested for this.
We in the west talk a lot of crap about freedom of speech but don't realize how precious a thing it truly is.
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Yep. Ate a 3 day ban recently from /c/memes for exactly that before I realized I was on lemmy.ml/c/memes.
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A lot of CCP trolls would say that the Uyghur genocide isn't happening and that witness testimony is from a one woman or couple of people who defected to propagandise for the West. But there is a point made that there are too many complains from hundreds, if not thousands, of Uyghurs to dismiss the accusation of genocide as merely from a handful of individuals. Because most people would rather get on with their lives than waste time making accusations.
CCP bootlickers run Lemmy like reddit? Damn thats a bummer
No, it's a federated platform. No single person or organization "runs" the whole thing.
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