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[–] breezeblock@lemmy.ca 155 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When will people realize that Elon only has one trick: lie really baldly really publicly, pressure the shit out of a bunch of smart engineers until they get to their breaking point, and if it works you’re a “genius” — if it doesn’t, just throw it on the pile of other completely outlandish shit that you said that never mattered.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 93 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You missed the critical middle step of pumping up market valuation so you can borrow against the hype.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Surely there is a dump step following the pump?

Or is it pump, borrow, repeat?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Borrowing against shares is the dump.

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[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 105 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Full self driving by 2016!!!!

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I ended up in a situation where I got picked up by a cyber truck of all things, and the current state of self driving is better than I expected, but I still don't trust it. It drove weirdly aggressively and lurchy, even doing frequent lane changes to get ahead, and while the car and people detection worked, the render on the screen was concerning because everything wiggles creepily and disappears and reappears.

Driving it manually seems like a terrible idea as well. No line of sight visibility at all behind and rear sides, way too much blind spot in the front.

10 years after promised completion and it only feels like starting the 'getting there' phase.

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Watched a buddy's Tesla categorize my car + trailer as a car, car + trailer, and then a semi and back again every few seconds. Both cars were parked....

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Who needs lidar

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The visualization bugginess depends on model confidence thesholds, just because it isn't rendered doesn't mean it isn't seen. I also wonder what aggression level it was set to.

Honestly, it's not terrible these days for 90% of the driving, but it will absolutely kill you or someone else if you think for a moment it can drive completely unsupervised - that's the real danger imo.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't know it had aggresion levels but it was probably fairly high. I've been in some powerful EVs that were still smooth.

The scary thing with the self driving is that it was stopping for people that I didn't notice and even the human driver had to look at the screen to see it was a person out of view, so even with supervision if it missed something you might not be able to see it.

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[–] gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, Elon, you’re the world’s richest loser.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Soyyyyyyy..... un perdedor!!!!!!

... so why don't we kill him?

Lyrically, of course.

Like no really, him and all these fuckers have eggshells for egos... mock them relentlessly, gloriously, they will crack.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is what happened when he streamed Path of Exile, lol.

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[–] artifex@piefed.social 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon needs all of his companies to stay in growth valuation mode. The moment people start pricing them like stable, mature companies (or worse) he’s kinda screwed.

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, the stock market has been not been pricing stable mature companies. Only growth stocks get money.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cultists do not like when you point out their fairy-deity is full of shit

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Most people don't like when their ego is threatened. They'll make up any excuse to protect their flimsy sense of self worth.

It's easier to just go "I guess I was wrong" but most people are emotionally fucking cowards.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's easier to just go "I guess I was wrong" but most people are emotionally fucking cowards.

It really seems like this is easier to me too. The older I get the more I realize that this is one of the most difficult things for a ton of people to do and I don't understand why. Do they genuinely think they are incapable of being wrong? I don't think there's anything special about me so why does this seem so hard for almost everyone else?

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Do they genuinely think

Given that this is about emotions, not thoughts, you're starting off on the wrong direction.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 4 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder about this a lot, too!

Some cursory searching shows a variety of causes. Maybe from a young age they were repeatedly taught that being wrong made them bad and stupid and unworthy of love, and that's deeply wound around their subconscious now.

It'd be just sad if it wasn't causing incalculable harm to society.

Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak "psychological constitution," that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate. Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering that their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so—they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening. Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-some-people-will-never-admit-that-theyre-wrong

:shrug:

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago

Elon Musk is the personification of a moron’s hallucination of a genius.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

All these 'geniuses' of the current age really make you wonder how many of the supposedly super intelligent innovators we learned about in school were just frauds taking credit for other people's achievements.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thomas Edison ❌ Nikola Tesla ✅

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Elon Musk is the Edison of the current age.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not true. Edison was quite the inventor in his younger days. Elon is just a leech.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's deragoratory to Edison, who's a piece of shit.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

He's the same shameless marketeer, but Edison, while a "brute-force" guy rather than actually being insightful or visionary, actually did more than just steal the ideas of others

He definitely stole plenty of the shit he's credited with, but not everything like Elmo has

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll ride the self driving Teslas we got in 2014 to the Mars base built in 2022.

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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The moment he smashed the Cybertruck window should have been the point at which his grift fell over.

He'd spent all that time talking up the Cybertruck, saying that it was damn near indestructable, that it was bulletproof. And to prove it he threw a huge ball bearing at the window.

And it smashed.

That should have been the point at which everyone said "Nah, this guy's a kook" and walked away. But nope. They all rode along on the meme and here we are.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

Way before that. The cave diving tantrum showed everyone he was a pampered asshole.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Honestly, it’s extremely funny, because of how shocked he was that a giant steel ball damaged the “bullet proof glass”.

Bullet proof glass doesn’t just… shrug off bullets, it cracks and breaks without shattering and the bullets embed in it rather than passing through. The glass on the demonstration could very well have been “bullet proof glass”. The fact that he thought that meant “will shrug off getting hit with a shot put” showed how surface level his understanding of things are.

Like he pretends to understand the businesses he owns, like he’s some how involved in the design and conceptualization of products. But’s he’s just a business idiot claiming credit for the work his employees do, and making everything worse when he does get involved.

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[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given the way he's talked about these robots in the past, I'm fine with them not being ready yet.

“If we build this robot army, do I have at least a strong influence over this robot army?” he told investors. “Not control, but a strong influence… I don’t feel comfortable building that robot army unless I have a strong influence.”

https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/elon-musk-remarks-robot-army

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eeegh shit I don't like it

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Considering the resource-raping and the complete absence of Asimov's Laws, we're better off without.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The entire point of the I, Robot anthology is that the three laws don’t work.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

True, because it's too easy to subvert them surreptitiously, and yet the present plan of openly seeking world domination, starting by running over schoolchildren and telling teens to commit suicide, is worse.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Modern day Edison.

Edison wasn’t stupid, he could come up with good ideas. He was just better at making others do the work and come up with the ideas for him to take as his own.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well. He's not complaining about paying Elon Musk via subscription.

It makes sense, as this guy apparently has a business to promote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JerryRigEverything

But still.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love that he goes after Elon etc really hard. It’s hilarious.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Still strange that he continues to promote his cyber truck

[–] TRock@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Am i out of the loop?

He sold the truck some months ago

https://youtube.com/shorts/8lgb4yJ4apU

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I didn’t know, thanks! (Btw, your link includes some tracking, YouTube showed me your Profile without me looking for it..)

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For anyone's info: everything after & including the "?" In YouTube links is tracking data. Deleting it when posting a link still shows the right video.

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[–] chippydingo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love seeing those overpriced dumpsters on the back of flatbed tow trucks...hopefully on its way to be dropped off at a scrap yard. Saw one just the other day during my commute home and I couldn't help but smile.

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The fact anyone believed this shit is evidence of shallow understandings of, like, everything. Of fucking everything. It's so stupid. Its so violently stupid.

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