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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We as a species have all the resources to create a leisure society. We choose not to.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

because we must maintain an artificial scarcity or profits will suffer. Wont anyone think of the shareholders?!

heaviest /s

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago

In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

In all seriousness, I've never read this (or anything by Steinbeck for that matter), and this made me want to. My only worry is that the whole thing will be a massive downer.

I've also heard that East of Eden is very good.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago

Oh shit. I actually need to read that. One of the ones school was correct to try and push on us, I see.

[–] nirodhaavidya@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This reminds me of how I need to read Steinbeck, especially Grapes of Wrath

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I'm going to keep posting it until it hopefully no longer applies.

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[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  • In France supermarkets have to donate food about to expire, they can't throw it away
  • Eu is making a law that forbids companies to incinerate/ throw away clothes
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

In the US, we have a law that prevents lawsuits to companies that donates expired food, protecting them from liability.

Loads of companies donate their food. Especially bakeries.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yet you'll occasionally still hear store managers try to say shit like, "we can't give it away because we might get sued".

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that they also destroy any attempts at creating a pipeline that such food can go to say homeless shelters, shelters for abused people, homeless people, etc. They'd rather people starve to death to make their money than see people fed. That's why we cannot live with an executive class in charge of everything.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The manager at my local grocery store once almost broke his neck slipping on ice chasing a homeless man stealing a bundle of wood. This sort of deranged mentality runs deep and is selected for in the corporate structure.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago

Too many people are so desperate for a gold star

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I worked at McDonald's one summer in college... used to carry out the bags of mcchickens and shit to throw away after shift. It wasn't hard to toss the bag over the dumpster and out the back of the enclosure for later collection...if one was so inclined. McDonald's fed me that summer, and it wasn't the fucking pennies they were paying me doing it.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Yup. Worked a 7-11 for a few years; anything not sold is written off and thrown out. If you're caught taking it home, or giving it away; immediate termination, with cause.

The reason I was given is 'conflict of interest'. The employees decide how much to make; if they're allowed to take it/give it away, they may choose to make extra to ensure they/their friends get freebies. Bullshit.

[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also things supermarkets consider "damaged goods".
4-pack of coke, but 1 can is missing.
Cans "cannot be sold separately", therefore it's trash now.
???

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

In the UK I have seen quite a few shops will just heavily discount it in that case.

Aldi sells wonky carrots. Costs fuck all and you get a huge amount. Oh no the carrot has a slight bend in it. Buy them at £0.53 per kg. It shows that a lot of people really don't care about their veg looking pristine. The idea that produce must be perfect to sell is a lie.

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then why is there always so much fucking waste

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago

Because their 'weekly forcast' software is garbage and the employees aren't paid enough to GAF.

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The third clip is from a Publix grocery store. I used to work in a Publix deli and I would fill up a shopping cart like that with food to be thrown away daily. That's just one location from one company. There is absolutely plenty of food for everyone on this planet.

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Capitalists are ghouls

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Canada is pretty similar. So much dumped instead of priced to sell

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[–] forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Please look up if you have any food rescue programs in your area.

I only have so much time but I spend less than an hour to stop at Little Caesars once a week. I grab 15 lbs of pizza and take it to whoever is accepting the food (right now a sobriety home).

Theoretically, a hundred people doing exactly what I do would save 1,500 lbs of food a week. It adds up quickly.

If you have a blessing box in your area then check your own cupboards too. Look for non-perishables you know you won't eat or will expire before you do.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (14 children)

We have the means to end every form of inequality out there. We would just have to come together as world to make it happen. But no. We're basically monkeys with nukes.

Which is why, as a species, we deserve everything coming our way.

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[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Fuck you, America.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the US, we have a law that prevents lawsuits to companies that donates expired food, protecting them from liability.

Loads of companies donate their food. Especially bakeries.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

While I'm sure many small privately owned companies are donating their old food, large organizations like national grocers and fast food chains have standing policies that prohibit franchisees from donating any food.

Donated food is free food. People who get free food are not paying customers. They'll say they're worried about a lawsuit, but what they're actually trying to accomplish is maintaining the absolute maximum number of paying customers.

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[–] AgentBigCactus@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

What we need are changes to health and safety laws. It's VERY hard to donate food at times. All it takes is one asshole suing a store, or company or a person to spook off any food donations. If you don't follow all the rules on traceability, regulatory checks on dates and transport it in a certain way, you open yourself up to a lawsuit. It's legal suicide to most companies. Please look up legislation on food health and safety and talk to your local MP (or whatever the American version is).

I work in my mother in laws church food program and know how hard it is for places to actually donate food.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (7 children)

At least in grocery stores you would be amazed how much stuff people pick up and leave somewhere else unrefrigerated. Or, they take stuff like bread or hot goods and leave it in a freezer bunker where it can’t be sold anymore.

It pisses me off and it’s not the stores fault, all they can do is throw it out. That’s usually what the carts of random garbage are: returns and customers ruining stuff.

The other stuff yrs, is disgusting. A manager who over produces so much should be getting called out for it, and most businesses don’t teach or use anything sophisticated to manage ordering.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The regulations on what you’re allowed to sell are pretty crazy. I raised some pigs and got the cast offs from the food bank. Bread and vegetables and grains that were just past the date they could legally be sold as human food.

A lot of the waste is capitalist greed, to be sure, but some of it is due to reall ly strict regulations on what you can sell as food without risking a lawsuit.

I donated about 10 pounds of pork chops to the food bank from the pigs, btw

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The issue is the price keeps people from buying it so it hits its best before date. As the dates are coming up they could do price chopping and get it sold.

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[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

might change this year. Wheat crop likely to be smallest since 1970.

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