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[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Well I mean, who doesn't want to eat fruit sprayed down with poison?! Eat up!

[–] RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

As a Pest Control Technician in the US, it's absolutely wild to consider using Neonicotinoids for agricultural pest control.

A very large part of why Neonicotinoids (Neo-nics) are so dangerous for Bees, is that unlike other forms of pesticides, they are "biocompatible" with plants (they're based on nicotine after all).

Even just getting Neo-nics near plants can allow them to project the full pesticide directly into the nectar, after the root systems pull the Neo-nics in.

Another large reason that Neo-nics are super dangerous to Bees, is called the "transfer effect".

Essentially if a Bee gets any of the Neo-nic on them, they can spread it by just saying "Hello" to the other Bees in the hive.

So you have Neo-nic laden Nectar, getting brought directly back to the hive... It's game over.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Humanity sucks

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago

This is heartbreaking

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

They're half German :p

[–] RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

It's how I type.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We really need ro stop thinking of bees as cute bugs and understand that they are livestock.

"Hey, we are lifting the ban on spraying cattle-poison from the air," sounds much more crazy.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 4 points 1 day ago

Because we treat livestock so well

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Having lived in the US all my life, I think the public reaction to cattle poison spray would be "well, as long as I can't taste it in the meat."

I wish we all had more empathy for the life we share this planet with.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not just empathy for the sake of empathy. We are part of a delicate ecosystem that is affected in millions of ways, especially unnatural things. Everything we do to it will splash back on us.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The conservatives I know all have this mindset: "It'll figure itself out. The drive for profit always finds a way." It's a nearly admirable amount of trust, if only it wasn't so horrendously misplaced.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

The trouble is negative externalities don't have a part in that thinking. You need enforced legislation to concert the gap, and that's been on the decline for decades (e.g. enabling monopolies, weakened environmental laws, regressive taxation, etc, etc).

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How long are we going to thumb our noses at the environment. We knew better almost seventy years ago. But yet here we are still massively overusing pesticides and fertilizers.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The native Americans, and probably other slaughtered native people, knew thousands of years ago

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even to this day, all across north and south America, people are still benefitting from the work indigenous people put into the soil and water. Both continents were a garden because the whole of them had been hand-tended for at least a hundred and fifty thousand years.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

had been hand-tended for at least a hundred and fifty thousand years.

As this did require the presence of people, it's more like 15000 years.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That 15,000 year figure has long been proven wrong, and other hominids were here even earlier than humans were.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Currently, that's speculation. Furthermore, the early people were hunters and gatherers and didn't cultivate the landscape beside e.g. fires for hunting.

Some argue that evidence points towards human presence extending back 130,000 years near San Diego, California at the Cerutti Mastodon site,[61] though the vast majority of scholars across multiple academic fields outright rejects this.[62][63][64] Scholars such as David J. Meltzer have emphasized the fact that there are no verified archaeological sites in the Americas older than 16,000 years accepted by the academic community at large,[65] which questions claims of sites being 20,000, 25,000, or even 130,000 years old.[66][67][68]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopling_of_the_Americas

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

"Didn't cultivate the landscape", what complete trash.

The same system that claimed Columbus discovered America, then finally relented that "other Europeans had gotten there first", is also finding it impossible to accept this. Meanwhile there is oral history that can be verifibly dated back to the caps melting at least partway. As well as loads of physical evidence that constantly gets "dismissed" because it "couldn't have possibly been that way".

Indigenous people are little more than a novelty backdrop with which to hang colonial "superiority". Well done proving that at least.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure, the native Americans developed agriculture 140,000 years before the people in the fertile crescent.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

No one said sedentary agriculture. Clearly you measure organized activity by very narrow standards.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who needs bees anyway, they just sting you, right

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its worse than that, they also buzzz around and thats just bad, imagine how hard it is to say "le buzzz"

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's even worse than that, hippies and brown people use honey as a sugar substitute when they could be subsidizing the glorious corn syrup industry instead!

/s

[–] Elting@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago

Typically the use of fertilizers and pesticides for farming just increases the need to use fertilizers and pesticides the next year. Its not a very sustainable application. Make it through this season because you poisoned all the aphids, but you completely destroy the food web they are a part of too and leave nothing but more room for them to spread next time.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read barkeepers and was confused.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Hard to make mead without honey

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 2 days ago

I'm tired of this planet. How do I get off?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

I've thought of a way to make neonicotinoids have a built-in limited lifespan.