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[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 161 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Digital isnt the worst thing, but how "ownership" is controlled can be. I wouldn't blame Sony for the move but their method is garbage, and their past practices with digital ownership is too.

GoG on the other hand knows how it should be done. I have tons of games from them on a thumb drive. I've never actually needed to use it, but its nice to know I can. Major kudos to them.

That said, most of my games are owned on steam, which still has DRM, but at least I can play those games on a 20 year old PC, a modern one, a box in my living room, or on a multitude of hand helds. With Sony you are tied to a specific console and thats that. Good fucking luck when they stop selling that console.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

DRM on Steam is up to the publisher.

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[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Nintendo churns out the same slop franchises year after year and aggressively sues anyone for anything.

Sony (somehow) believes that investors are what give their company value, not customers, and certainly not employees. They're abandoning physical media and not backing down on their anti-consumer practices that only continue to get worse.

Microsoft has become the new EA, aggressively buying up every single schmedium-sized gaming studio they can get their hands on, mismanageing them all into the ground, then selling them off for parts to save their own asses while leaving talented studios to die on the vine. They're basically buying the right to scrap their competition and they'll get away with it because they have enterprise IT subscriptions to absorb the losses.

AAA gaming is dead. And greed killed it. I'll be playing indie PC games and emulators for the foreseeable future.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 66 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

Nintendo churns out the same slop franchises

looks at most highly rated video games of all time

Look mate, not everything you don't personally like is "slop".

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Greed has been a problem in the AAA game space for a long time. It's just that before reliable Internet connections, it was harder to exploit people.

Before this, it was lootboxes and gambling mechanics, before that, it was microtransactions, balancing the game to incentivise spending money, and before that it was chopping bits off the game and selling it as DLC.

Prior to that, the worst we got was cheap sequels and shovelware.

[–] Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's all about maximizing shareholder value. Unfortunately, companies have come to the realization that happy customers are no longer the path to success. There is more value in capturing a market and then gutting services to squeeze those pennies out. Long term this can't be sustainable but here we are.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

There's a whole wide world of AAA video games out there aside from those you mentioned. Kingdom Come: Deliverance II was fantastic just last year; Metaphor: ReFantazio the year before that; Baldur's Gate 3 the year before that; Elden Ring the year before that. Plenty more still might be significantly smaller, but it would be difficult to count something like The Alters as indie; or Invincible VS or Screamer or Mouse: P.I. for Hire.

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[–] Tamps@feddit.uk 35 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I'm reluctant to buy any digital games on anything but Steam at this point, and that's because Valve has begrudingly earned my trust over 20 years of use. I do wonder what plans are in place for the point at which Gabe isn't around to steer Valve.

I have zero confidence in any other game related corporation to have a long term view in mind, and especially not one in which the platform is designed to be consumer friendly.

[–] Caffeinated_Capybara@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I would trust GOG too. At least as long as they let you download offline installers.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

only responds to their investors...

Did you know this is legally enforceable? The shareholders can sue a publicly company if it doesn't prioritize 'shareholder value'. For example a company that cut profit instead of doing layoffs.

It's not spoiled leadership, but a rotten ecosystem that breeds amphibian avarice as the dominant culture.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, a company cannot be sued for failing to maximize shareholder value. The business judgment rule protects any company that wants to raise wages, refrain from layoffs, donate to charity, offer sick leave, etc. What they can’t do is not pursue profit at all. Now, will shareholders vote them out if they do those things? Maybe, but that’s a totally different mechanism than a lawsuit.

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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been years buying digital for PC but never did once on PS4, PS3 or XBOX 360, I mean what the point? The only reason to have a console was so that you can sell your discs once played or lending to friends.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

We used to be able to do that with PC games, too. But then Valve and Apple killed physical PC games.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Apple killed physical PC games

Valve, sure. But this is a leap of such inscrutable logic that I have to hear more about it.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The PS5 probably won't see any noticeable decrease in game sales, because pretty much everyone who wants one already has one, but I'll be interested to see if gamers call Sony's bluff for the PS6 or not.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't have much faith in them turning down the PS6 if the calls to boycott Hogwarts Legacy is anything to go by.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We'll see. Boycotting a $1000+ digital only console will be easier than boycotting a $70 game. Will millions buy it? Of course. But shareholders don't just want SOME of the money, they want ALL of the money. It needs to sell many tens of millions.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Every company that goes public stock shifts their priorities from customers to investors (extracting money).

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

https://kazeta.org/

don't need these shitty corporations and their walled platforms...

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[–] TechAnon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

I'm starting to think consoles are cooked. The massive jumps in technology between console generations have turned into small incremental steps. The game quality has dropped (independent games and a few others are exceptions). PC's used to be slow to boot and load a game vs consoles and also required updates to download, but now PCs are quick and updates are mostly automatic. Consoles used to be nice to just turn on and play without thinking about all that other stuff, yet now they require downloads and updates as well. Loading times aren't much better either. Consoles used to also be very cheap compared to PCs, but now with the "next gen" being around $1000 the price difference isn't that huge anymore - especially when you factor in modular updates that can be done to a PC to cheaply extend it's life. One of the last hold outs for consoles were physical games and now they're taking that away too.

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[–] Ismay@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago

Got fed u with the fucking stick drift and Sony's bullshit. Plugged my Rog ally that was taking dust to the TV, put bazzite on it. Now I can play what I want with a 20$ controller.

Playstation can go to hell.

[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 17 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

What would really grind Sony's gears is if everyone stops updating their system and waits for the PS5 Linux hacks to catch up to their firmware version. Then, they install Linux and get Steam working and only buy digital games from Steam and GOG, or emulate older games, on their Linux hacked PS5.

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[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

Meh, most games are available on PC, and the exclusives that aren’t will come to emulators eventually. It’s worth paying extra for a PC that can run anything you like, including games, especially when you can install Linux and cut a ton of bullshit out of your life.

[–] sealhaslupus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sony didn’t really “double down”. The decision to wind down their physical games category was made years ago. Everything after the initial public announcement is to manage public relations.

Not sure many outside Japan realise but Sony are a conglomerate that dip their fingers into unrelated industries. This to them is clearly just a line through a smaller category on the balance sheet.

There’s a discussion to be had about ownership and physical games but i think that market is going to re-emerge in the future in perhaps a more bespoke way, like the resurgence of music vinyls.

To me, Sony seems to be interested in just managing the distribution of IP opposed to “gaming” itself. They’re not true custodians in that space or if they were, then they’re not now.

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

im never buying a sony title again.

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago

Guess Im done with Playstation moving forward.

[–] fascistno1hater@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Well this will be my last PlayStation. I only buy discs so I can trade them with my friends.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

"Fiduciary responsibility"

Thanks Milton Friedman!

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