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[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 104 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Canada population: 41.4 million

California population: 39.4 million

Greater Tokyo Area: 37.4 million

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Almost similar GDP as well

Canada GDP (2026): $2.51 Trillion USD

California GDP (2025): $4.25 Trillion USD

Greater Tokyo Area (2022): $1.82 Trillion USD

Wide Spread but still all in the low Trillions

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

California is inflated by Silicon Valley stuff. Maybe left-over Hollywood prestige, as well.

Japan isn't known for it's awesome economy, but it's surprising world city Tokyo is still doing worse than all of Canada including the backwaters.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

California also offers an agricultural powerhouse of productivity, oceanfront tourism, and ongoing techbro circle jerks.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder if you take out fossil fuel and logging out of Canada’s GDP if it still would be higher than Tokyo’s. Not much logging and oil drilling going on in Tokyo I reckon.

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[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Doing Worse is subjective.

Higher GDP ≠ Doing Better.

The US has some of the highest GDP per capita on earth but that doesn’t mean it (or its economy, if you don’t define economy just as stock market go brrr) is doing well.

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 11 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Biggest question.

Who wins in a street fight.

I wanna give it to the Canadians on sheer variety but I think California might win that one.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Canadian ninjas or Californian ninjas?

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 11 points 2 weeks ago

Surf Ninjas!

[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1000% California. So Cal is mostly LA and NorCal is a bunch of granola outdoor survival types.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I mean, we have plenty of people living off the land in Canada too, and it's hard land.

If they're allowed bringing their guns, the Americans are going to win every time, of course.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago

Canadians tend to become creative when they are at war.

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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 44 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

80% of þe population of Canada lives South of Minneapolis, MN., USA.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife's family is from northern Minnesota. When we visit my in-laws we like to joke that they're two states north of Canada.

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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 22 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

there are too many people in Tokyo. like come on guys. there are other cities.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The density makes life very convenient though

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[–] comrademiao@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt you've been or lived here if you think it's very dense for a large city. Frankly its extremely spread out. Most buildings are quite short or single family homes. Compared to the skyscrapers of Chinese cities, its a lot closer to American suburbs.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So Tokyo has 1 moose, California has 100 moose, and Canada is overrun by moose. Got it!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Only moose I ever saw in California palled around with a squirrel and constantly had beef with a Russian couple when visiting Universal Studios.

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[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but also Mercator projection.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Does that mean Canada is looking for immigrants? A lot of us can help bring that number up.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The big map is misleading. The vast majority of us live within 100 miles of the US border.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ed, it's a startling revelation.

Canada, getting ready to invade, has amassed 90% of its population along its border with the United States.

The longest unprotected border in the world, stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to that other one.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That depends on whom you ask. 🤷 And how eager are you to live in a remote community?

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[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Canada is in desperate need of immigrants but simultaneously suffering some growing pains from fumbled immigration programs and policy it’s the old you won’t make everyone happy shenanigans

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

tokyo firmly believes in stacking

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

You made Saddam too small.

[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

And people wonder why Japan's population is shrinking. (Wait, is it shrinking or did it stop growing?) Disinterest in breeding may be an innate response to overpopulation. In any case, Tokyo's population is fucking crazy and decreasing the number of people voluntarily and peacefully is a GOOD thing.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

COL in Japan in general is about as unhealthy as it is in California.

people are working themselves to death just to scrape by.

if governments want population growth, they have to siphon wealth away from their corporate overlords and nurture the working class.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Japan's population decline isn't really about cost of living so much as it is about poor quality of life/a stiflingly conservative culture. Terrible work/life balance, women still largely being expected to quit work when they have kids (and it being assumed that women will have kids, leading to discrimination in the workplace and limited career promotion opportunities), men still largely being expected to be salarymen who are forced to prioritize their company and social expectations at work above all else, etc.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I doubt the fertility rate is much better in the scenic, middle-of-nowhere areas. People just don't want kids, and now there's the option to have sex without them.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tokyo isn't having population decline, its the countryside.

[–] PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ironically, Tokyo has one of the lowest fertility rates in Japan. It's only still growing because it keeps drawing in basically all of the young people from the countryside.

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[–] yoru77@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

The more you think about it, the more insane it is, like... wow

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I know where I want to live. (and do)

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Tokyo demands the sharpest elbows of the three.

[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Makes you wonder why housing prices in Canada are so ridiculously high then when they have so much free land space.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

do you want to drive 3 hours to work every day?

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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Considering we have like 9% of the world's entire forests, where would you like us yo build these houses?

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