Fear has to be built up in time.
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
I doubt they'll be as kind to us
I mean, it's realistic. I know people who were at protests, and got arrested, and when they couldn't find a way to charge them with crimes, they put them in psych hold for a minimum of 72 hours, and there are known instances of people having this done that ended up in for long times.
NYPD got caught doing it to a cop who was whistle blowing in the late 00s.
I thought they got caught doing it more than once. But yeah, super shitty abuse of power.
Honestly wouldn’t surprise me, I’m just familiar with the one case.
Fun fact: There was a group of psychologists who were doing a study on how difficult it is to prove your sanity and get out of a psych ward, and checked themselves in to then see how long it took to prove that they were actually psychologists and get out. The longest one took 10 years before he was released.
Another fun fact: The terminator in the second movie is a cop because Cameron believes cops are humans who should have empathy for others but don't - like a machine. When asked why he made the villain a cop, James Cameron said ACAB.
I would not be surprised if he researched the use and abuse of psych wards and the abuse that patients in psych wards commonly experience, or knew somebody who suffered similar circumstances.
Do you have a source? I tried to find one and only came across the Rosenhan Experiment, which states the longest stay was 52 days, and it was an experiment about diagnoses, not sanity provability.
The last decade or two proved all the "crazy" people of the 70's, 80's, and 90's correct.
There was, in fact, a shadow cabal of pedophiles attempting to take control of the US government.
They're now in power, and there isn't much we can do now but hope they get bored of it, because America has shown there isn't much we won't forgive, as long as you give a wink and a nod to the racists.
The problem being that a lot of those "crazy" people that spoke about an evil cabal are the ones supporting it now and somehow don't see it.
They've been in power since the 50s. 1850s.
There was a Robert Redford movie from the 70s, can't remember the title, but it was a convoluted spy thriller with a line like, "It's the oil companies! Of course! Why didn't I see it!"
We've been sleeping-walking into oligarchic fascism for decades.
She was caught trying to blow up a computer factory, and then they found out she was running guns from Mexico with a boy she was raising to be the messiah. With the information they had, they made the right call.
The asylum in Terminator is so goddamn well done. I think it is possibly the Girl Bossiest of Girl Boss scenes ever, because it shows that, despite all her dedication to training, she is still at a physical disadvantage with the guards and has to be both vicious and cunning to escape. Then when she finally sees Arnold again, she collapses in terror. That is some amazing world and character building.
Nowadays, I feel like she would just one-punch all the guards, maybe lift one up over her head and throw him at another last guard, finally kicking Arnold in the nuts before realizing he's a good guy now.
I always loved her character, progressive for it's time imo
That's a really good point. I bet a lot of that has to do with the original being a slasher flick rather than an action blockbuster. There's some residual final-girl, "just because I survived doesn't mean I'm not terrified," energy to her character.
One of the joys of being unemployed is that I can make my day's plans from random lemmy convos. Today: Terminator and Terminator 2.
Edit: Also Cameron wants the audience to be afraid of Arniebot and not Mercurybot, it also gives the character an arc to travel with regards to Arniebot. The reveal of Arnold as the Good Guy in T2 is really masterfully done, perhaps lost on audiences who grew up with it.
Now that you mention it, the fight choreography in T2 really is something that helps the story feel more grounded. Connor vs T1000 is certainly a good example, but the T800 vs T1000 fights are all the right kinds of klunky vs fluid, respectively. There are probably other subtle examples in this film.
Not only is there the contrast, but there's development. You can see them using their initial strategies and adapting over time. I swear on the grave of my murdered father: I love it when fights develop character!
The depth of the implications of that moment though... the horror, the reality of it all, the scale of it... all encapsulated in that one confirmation, a terminator. So we didn't stop it again yet. >:,-I What a gut punch, like seeing the whole world destroyed in an instant.
"Mom! Mom! Wait! He's here to help!"
Sure.
She would have been a lot more effective if she had just slept with all the top people and blackmailed them.
Yeah, and if they don't play ball, she could put all the evidence in a big folder called The Epstein Files and send it to the white house. That'll show em.
She was a total badass. If they don’t play ball she has other methods of making them stop.
Like putting her cigarettes in their urethras.
I’d pay to watch that movie.
I'd pay to not.
I know a guy who changed his name to Al Datacenter.
Does he get free electricity in return for kickbacks & bribes?
??? Paying an electricity bills with bribes (money)??
No, but he did score 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High!

Hey can we stop posting this image made by someone who clearly never saw the movie? That's not why she gets locked up
People who don’t ash their cigarettes drive me nuts.
We used to put sewing pins in cigarettes so the ash wouldn’t fall off.
Burning the chrome was probably very toxic, but hey, they were cigarettes and we were also breathing in Tetraethyl Lead fumes and lead paint particles in the 1980s.
Is that the kid from home alone?
One of my favorite running gags on reddit: every time someone failed to assassinate Sam Altman someone would comment that it would keep happening until the timeline changed.
It won't matter anyway, he is the money man, not the brains behind AI. Someone else would take over, nothing would change.
"AL data centers"?
If you leave the pasta in water for too long they become al data.