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[-] kbal@fedia.io 93 points 2 months ago

If you're planning to buy a GPU in the 2020s it's probably best to aim for late 2023.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

A used 1080ti is half the price of a 3060 and has more vram

[-] alakey@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago

Also is on life support drivers, does not support compute shaders and is not supported by modern Linux at all.

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

Life support drivers yes, not supported by modern Linux is a blatant lie.

[-] alakey@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How so? Nvidia dropped support, so as it stands you are at the mercy of the distro maintainers to keep the old drivers in the repos.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

while fair, the crappy open source drivers are still under development as far as I'm aware.

[-] alakey@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

As far as I could tell Neuveu drivers do not support older cards at all. It does load into the environment, but crashes as soon as there's any rendering trying to happen.

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[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

3rd party repos or packaging it yourself. On Arch you can just update the pkgbuild yourself (or any other distro really).

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[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Ive got a 1070 that still works really well. Steam games and all.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago

The GPU price hike is here and you should avoid any Nvidia card

Fixed the headline. You're welcome.

[-] alakey@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

Unironically yes, for now at least, 9070 and 9070XT are well around their MSRP prices still.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

just avoid buying hardware at all

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 months ago

Ah yes “Go for the 8GB card” you know, the same one we’ve been telling for years to avoid because of its limited vram capacity.

[-] OldManWithACane@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 months ago

Just avoid nvidia. AMDs RX 9070 XT is still a solid deal. I bought one two weeks ago for under $700. This thing is fantastic, plays everything Ive tried and the open source drivers on Linux are a breath of fresh air compared to the nightmare of nvidias drivers

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago

If one is on Linux I’d urge to avoid NVidia like the plague. Replaced my 4070 Super with an AMD card and I’ve had zero problems since.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I've been slowly switching the family PCs I manage for exactly this reason. I've warned my family that if windows stops working, I'm installing Linux on their PCs and will sit down with them to train them how to use it rather than put up with Windows anymore. Someday I'll be windows free, except for the office but I don't have any control over company property.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

I thankfully have two company laptops, one with NixOS on it. It's rare that I need to use the Windows one.

My own computer runs on Tumbleweed. Every time there was an issue when doing a system upgrade, it was because of that fucking NVidia card. Thankfully with Tumbleweed you have Snapper functionality built in so rolling back is easy as hell, but there was a decent amount of time lost to troubleshooting and workarounds that I've just not experienced since switching from NVidia's garbage.

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I've got one in my living room PC I use as a home theater PC and couch gaming system running Mint. It runs every game I've tried at 4K60 no problem. Definitely recommend as well. I think I paid $650~ at Microcenter for it.

[-] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago

I'm avoiding computing I guess.. I won't pay those absurd prices, and I will not every pay for cloud bullshit.

I'll abandon computing and the internet if it comes to it.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

That's pretty much the point I arrived at a couple years ago when prices never really did come down after the crypto bullshit tailed off.

The latest hardware I bought was a 16 GB kit of DDR3 for my spare parts server.

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[-] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 3 points 2 months ago

I got a used 3ds and dsi and been loving it. Love them more than my switch. I'll go for vintage hardware and vintage games if needed over paying for cloud computing.

[-] Airfried@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago

Ah so the price hike is finally here after years of price stability...

[-] mrbigmouth502@piefed.zip 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hot take, developers should start optimizing for 4GB of VRAM or less. I'm personally just fine with a 7th-gen console level of detail at 1080p60, and I'm even willing to settle for 720p30.

Then again, most of the games I play these days are literally from the 90s, so what do I know?

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

is here

As in, it wasn't here a year ago? Two years ago?

Its been here for long enough to set up a tent

[-] SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The GPU price hike is here and you should avoid any Nvidia card ~~with more than 8 GB VRAM, if you value your bank balance~~

[-] warm@kbin.earth 14 points 2 months ago

You should be avoiding NVIDIA anyway, AI boom or not.

[-] KssioAug@piefed.zip 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To be fair, people need to set their priorities straight. Even though these are marketed as 'gaming' hardware, are they actually?

I have an RTX 4060 8GB VRAM that seems to have people hating all over it, but I don't see the point, currently, to buy another GPU. It runs smoothly enough every single game I've attempted to run it, including stuff like Alan Wake 2. There's also the fact that most AAA games that demand a strong hardware are barely worth playing.

But as long as 'gamers' keep fixating on the idea that gaming can only be enjoyable when they own the best hardware to run things on 4k, 120fps, almost zero input delay, and whatever the fuck else the market sells as essential for a 'true gaming experience', that's what you get: extremely overpriced hardware, that will never feel enough.

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I'm still getting by on just a Steamdeck. I don't own a computer otherwise, and my console really just plays a game or two.

[-] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Same experience with my 3070, and expect it to be the situation for a good while still.

Considering where I'm posting this, maybe it's sacrilege, but I just don't think it makes business sense to develop a triple A game that can't run on the consoles - and console cycles have gotten really long.

[-] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

I've been avoiding Nvidia for a while now. Too much buck per bang.

[-] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 9 points 2 months ago

First crypto now AI, can the users just asking for a decent GPU catch a break here?

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

Crypto was limited bad since it only targeted GPU performance. AI targeting DRAM affects EVERYTHING. Phones, TVs, monitors, your router, smartwatches, ANYTHING that runs even a semblance of OS...

Microcontrollers are mostly safe as they use a different structure of RAM (500kB-8MB RAM doesn't need multi-thousand MT/s, so older tech is useful there).

But everything else is fucked.

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

You should also be avoiding cards with 8GB of VRAM.

[-] spacegoat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago
[-] silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk 6 points 2 months ago

This will be The Year of Optimization (copium)

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

AMD, Linux and indie games for the win.

[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 5 points 2 months ago

What? Nvidia cards have been super expensive for many, many years. Keep your old card- it's probably fine. If you need a new card get yourself a nice cheap B580 or whatever AMD is on now. Play some older games or just turn off some of the eye garbage. You'll be ok.

[-] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

if you value your bank balance

Joke's on you, I don't have a bank balance

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

A B580 has 12 gigs, sips power, and is cheap as hell. Not everybody needs a flagship Nvidia guys.

[-] JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

The rising tide lifts all boats or some shit. Arc is rising in price too. Newegg has them at $310 if they're available. Ebay is $325+S&H. Any listing that's under $300 has $20+S&H fees in small print under the cost. Amazon has some models that are pushing $400 which is insane for this card regardless of what extras third party manufacturers are throwing at it. The market is extremely fucked right now.

[-] golinux@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Not to mention Intel provides probably the best Linux support out of the "Big 3"

https://linuxvox.com/blog/intel-arc-linux-drivers/

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

AMD has the best Linux support GPU wise but Intel is getting better every day. NVIDIA has a reputation for a reason.

Isn’t linuxvox AI slop?

[-] Janx@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

NVIDIA has a reputation for a reason.

More like they're infamous for their historical poor support/performance, but yeah.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

That’s the reputation I was referring to. Linus Torvalds made waves when he told them to quite literally fuck off.

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[-] cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

avoiding nvidia since the gtx 1070, which I still have and is fully functional!

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I see, a man of culture. My last Nvidia card is also a GTX 1070 (before that had the 970 and before that the 750 Ti). Its in my last PC build, as I upgraded to AMD with my new PC. AMD is just much better choice on Linux. Imagine new low end cards in 2026 will be released with 4gb VRAM, while the mid tier 1070 has 8gb VRAM. It has been 10 years.

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