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Donald Trump wants the Navy to rip out an electromagnetic launch system and replace it with a steam one.

Once again, the dimwitted President has gone full Juggalo.

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good. Anything that diminishes American power is a positive.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Ummm, I wouldn't normally defend ICP, but Violent J and the other members of ICP have come out as supportive of basically everyone in the last few years*, and have straight up said that their early songs are indictive of how uneducated they were at the time, and have since then disavowed, and stopped playing all those songs.

ICP, and Juggalos in general seem like a Hard Rock/ Rap version of The Rainbow Family at this point.

Juggalos are also getting news stories for doing the same thing that the punk scene did, and tossing fascists out of their gatherings, then showering them with faygo.

*I know they came out as supportive of LGBTQ, as well as furries, partially because of their kids. People learning to be better is a good thing.

[–] big_ZimDa_Him@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be clear, ICP have always been anti-bigotry, with a sprinkle of homophobia. They stopped the homophobic crap tho.

Good to know. I never got into their music, but I've known a few Juggalos over the years.

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[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This mother fucker said magnets stop working in the water and are therefore a stupid thing to put on a boat.

This can't be my original timeline. This is the demented rantings of an old man. But he happens to be the fucking president...

Fuck this.

[–] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The timeline split in 2000.

Man I wish I was in the other one and Bush wasn’t able to steal the election from Gore.

They must have it good over there.

FUUUCK

Still haunted by hanging chads. Fuck

[–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If a portal to a parallel universe opens up, I'm going through.

Jim Varney was holding back the darkness. When he died, everything went to shit.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Maybe if we do large amounts of LSD, there could still be a way to switch timelines back to the good one...

It's a slim hope, but... worth a shot?

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think this is possible, but it's not the working class that needs the hero dose...

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Even if the oligarchs trip balls and have a revelation of cosmic unity, when they come down they'll just integrate whatever parts of it make sense within their worldview and dismiss the rest as just trippy drug nonsense.

So in a sense it might actually make them worse, by further cementing the patterns that are already established in their neural pathways.

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 30 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I am hereby ordering Trump's parents to unfuck and for him to be unborn.

Has about the same chance of happening...

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You made my dog happy this evening. He's gleefully lapping up the mouthful of icecream I spat all over the floor laughing at this fucking masterpiece of a comment.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My guess is that Kegseth really wanted to see testosterone filled Seamen covered in hot, damp steam.

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That’s basically what he’s been doing his whole life, to everything. It’s getting to the point that everything he does is emblematic of American decline, while also directly causing it.

Here’s why the navy is switching to the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, over the reliability of steam catapults:

The system launches carrier-based aircraft by means of a catapult employing a linear induction motor rather than the conventional steam piston, providing greater precision and faster recharge compared to steam.

Its main advantage is that it accelerates aircraft more smoothly, putting less stress on their airframes. Compared to steam catapults, the EMALS also weighs less, is expected to cost less and require less maintenance, and can launch both heavier and lighter aircraft than a steam piston-driven system. It also reduces the carrier's requirement of fresh water, thus reducing the demand for energy-intensive desalination.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was talking with a retired admiral this morning about this issue. He said it can't be done without rebuilding half the ship. You would have to rip out and then relocate most of the engineering compartments.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, they are not going to do this. They will redefine electromagnetic launchers as steam launchers before they actually dismantle an aircraft carrier.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You misjudge the motivation, which is probably to spur massive payments for renovations from contractors that will send kickbacks.

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 13 points 2 days ago

Standard Tactical Electric Acceleration Mechanism.

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’ve launched off the front of aircraft carriers hundreds of times, have a Master’s degree in aeronautical engineering, and am a test pilot and even I wouldn’t suggest to the Navy how to engineer specific systems on its ships,

Naval aviator, combat veteran, test pilot, aeronautical engineer, space shuttle pilot, space shuttle commander, captain Mark Kelly significantly understates his qualifications. People who know a lot of stuff usually know what they don't know.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Its why I hate being the "smart one" at work and amongst friends and family. The smartest people I know don't automatically answer every question they get asked or don't take it upon themselves to find an answer. I have some fucking horrible compulsion to find the correct answer to everything.

The smartest people I know can stick to their domain. They seem far less stressed. And they are able to be content knowing there are things they don't know.

To me, knowing a lot doesnt equate to intelligence in the slightest.

The more you learn, the more you realize just how much knowledge you lack. And it never stops getting worse. At some point I started realizing there were things I didn't even understand how I knew them. I'm sure all of you are aware of how disturbing that feels. The inability to provide knowledge of the self.

I would NEVER give medical or legal, or safety advice outside of the realm of electronics and softwate. I can certainly tell you what I know but I will also tell you that a person with a license and malpractice insurance behind them is necessary to tell you want to do with that knowledge.

People don't like that. People don't like it when they think you are smart and state something "without confidence like that." They like it even less when they find out your knowledge was sufficient and they "wasted money on a professional."

Trump does this shit the same reasons mid level and higher level managers do all their stupid shit. Because people prefer it when you are strictly confident, especially when you are confident about something that would benefit them, completely detached from the reality if it will or won't.

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[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Navy: it will take until January 20, 2029 for the design of the replacement to be finished and approved.

So the new president can install them anyway out of an effort to "heal" and "move forward"?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

Universal Healthcare? HOW WILL WE PAY FOR IT!!! billions on pointless horseshit that will also have to be fixed with billions more when he's gone? FINE!!!

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Back to the steam age we go! Forget microcontrollers and magnets, we want steam and coal!

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[–] methanemoose@lemmus.org 14 points 2 days ago

It's OK everyone. He's finally demanding that thing we have been demanding for almost 100 years. Free health... air craft carriers to have steam power added back into them. Like they were in the good ol days of yore. Because government contracts cut corners everywhere. When you find an issue. Declare your family the only people that can be paid to do a job. Pay them and everyone just forget that trump funneled billions from the defense fund to his own banks accounts that may or may not be in the US.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

It's not just inferior tech being redesigned, Steam production/reservoirs need extra space, and space taken away from existing design. Very unlikely that steam would be needed for anything else on the ship.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How do people see the pooper-in-chief meddling in small-potatoes stuff like this and see him as anything but a mentally-declining senior citizen? Is this any kind of issue a President should be concerning himself with? Is there nothing more important on his plate?

If it's meant to be another stupid distraction, I'm sorry to say, it's working better than some of them.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its obviously a grift. Someone wants their old contract back, and paid for it, i figure.

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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 23 points 2 days ago

So the case is EMALS had a few corners cut when it was put in. Long story short it's isolation issues. The old steam systems could isolate a track, the electrical system is just one big unified thing. So on steam, a track goes down they can just turn off that track and keep launching on the others. On the electrical one track goes down, they have to shut the whole thing off, zero aircraft get launched.

There's already contracts to fix this issue being put out. But this happens with Government projects. Corners get cut to hit a deadline, those cut corners then come back to haunt everyone.

And the thing is what the Government sees isn't the whole picture. They're looking at the metric of "number of planes system got into the air". Which I'm sure we all understand averages here. If a system is getting a 0/hour when one track goes down, that zero brings that average down hard.

But very few want to go back to steam. It's very costly, requires a lot of very specialized equipment to house all the high pressure systems, and some drones we toss into the air with these systems aren't made to take the sudden thrust steam gives it. The EMALS system can give a very clean and well defined ramp up for thrust that drone engineers can build around.

But this is one of those things where some wise guy's cut corners idea starts to threaten a full project because people start getting all worried about sunk costs and what not. But the electrical system is flawed, but we can work around those flaws to bring better isolation to it. It's just going to take time because... you know, it's a military vessel, it's kind of hard to be like "let's just drag it out of an active war zone and dry dock it for half a year." Clocks tick differently on projects like that.

But going back to steam, and to be fair it took a while to properly develop those systems as well, is less than ideal. It's got a much high cost and takes a whole lot more maintenance to keep running. And some aircraft we'd have to yank off duty and fix them to handle steam's level of yeeting things. But Congress and what not aren't looking at that dollar metric, they're mostly focused on "how many aircraft did the system on average get into the air?"

But to be fair here, we are talking about some dude who decided to level an entire wing of the White House before actually going through any kind of approval or formalizing any kind of plan. So... He's consistent in that whole doing shit and thinking about it later.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

I am kinda hoping that EMAL carriers are pulled into drydock, and then steam carriers are put into extended duty. The EMALs can be refitted and ready for service when civil war happens, and serve the ReUnion against the Confederacy - with EMALs in good order. Thus, the Trump Regime is saddled with the logistics of supporting their own rotting steam carriers, and also paid for the healthy upkeep of the ReUnion's boats.

That would be a pleasing thing to see.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Could you imagine the dumb shit Harris would be doing as president?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, she cackles. Also, she'd be doing completely normal things in office as a woman, something which many people, including Pete Hegseth's pastor, find to be against "the" bible.

Also, many many so-called "leftists" like to haughtily inform me that they are morally superior beings for not voting at all or for voting third party, and obviously Gaza is so much better now. Because they didn't support genocide.

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[–] Astrealix@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, let's get rid of actually good technology and go back to the fucking 1800s. What next, no more nuclear powered ships, only coal engines?

[–] bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I mean, nuclear is just a steam engine with long lasting fuel..

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

So now he's tearing up our ships and we're further made vulnerable. Remember when he said he's destroying the country? Yeah.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, enough of that! Stop insulting the Juggalos!

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[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile in China where they believe in science and innovation:

https://nextgendefense.com/chinese-carrier-electromagnetic-catapult/

[–] cristigyk@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago

next he'll tell them to get rid of the engines and install sails.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"GLORIOUS CLEAN STEAM!"

Why don't we go back to steam for the engines too while we're at it?

[–] Rato@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

The aircraft carriers prior to the Ford used steam catapults. Nuclear reactor plants make plenty of steam, and American carriers all have at least two.

That being said, a redesign to support steam catapults in the Ford class is asinine. The electromagnetic ones were a core design feature, and years of work went into making them reliable.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But they'd have to leave station and go into dry dock to do that. That's not how the Hegseth navy rolls.

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

If he wasn't a foreign Manchurian candidate, he would make an excellent one

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