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[–] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

I've heard both Melon Husk and Lil' Jeffy Kisses repeat this sentiment. Where do they even get their figure? Something like 120 billion humans have existed, ever, and there has been only one Einstein and one Mozart. 1/120B * 1T = 8.5.

Factor in the widespread nutritional and medical resource shortages that would come along with one trillion humans, and I'm confident that number would drop to zero.

It seems to be that we'd be better off ensuring the future of humanity and focusing on science. Surely it would be quicker to experiment with genetics to grow an Einstein than it would be to implement a trillion-human breeding lottery hoping to find one.

[–] bullsworth@pawb.social 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

We almost certainly have 1,000 Einsteins and 1,000 Mozarts alive today. A relevant quote from 1979:

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."

-Stephen Jay Gould

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Think about how many Einsteins and Mozarts all over the world who he and the other billionaires have killed through their policies and greed

[–] Digit@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Well said.

I tried say that too but probably got lost in my verbose rant.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You know we already probably have a bunch of Mozarts and Einsteins peeing in bottles to avoid getting dinged while driving Amazon Prime trucks because that's the only way they can get by.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're almost certainly is a bunch of geniuses who were never appreciated because they spend their entire lives trying to get food and water because they were unfortunate enough to be born into Ethiopia. We could feed and house and educate these people if we really wanted to, to the benefit of not just themselves, but the entire species if they did turn out to be the next Einstein. Instead the likes of Jeff Bezos go on podcasts and talk about how wonderful the distant future is going to be, while at the same time being utterly unprepared to do anything about the problems we have right now.

Is space Karen actually paid his taxes we probably could build a base on Mars with that money.

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[–] WizardArtsPropaganda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most billionaires are the scums of the world, hording the wealth and spending it on stupid stuff while his employees who do the actual work get little to no credit and are payed much less.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah. If anyone can propose an exception, I will show them an example of effective image whitewashing.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stories like these from people like these are always delivered through the lens of what's best for business. This is propaganda.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Also lack of genuine self-awareness on their own true intentions. To them, being greedy is so ingrained they can't see it as a hazard to themselves until its too late.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only reason ghouls like Bezos want a bigger population is because they want more people to exploit, especially artists and scientists.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We already have a 1000 mozarts but half of them are starving right now and then out of the other half 80% couldnt pursue their dreams

[–] skibidi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

- Steven Jay Gould

Look some the poors are going to die however that is just the price we all have to pay to make sure the rest of the Epstein Class continues to hoard wealth.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

And Bezos is pushing for genAI, so they will be pushed out by genAI slop.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did you guys know it's possible to be rich and also just shut the fuck up?

[–] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, we don't see e.g. the heads of the BIS etc swanning around doing the fauxlanthropist whitewashing bit on the podcast circuit.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I haven't heard that term before. Gonna mentally bookmark that.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Humans would find a way to destroy space through greed and corruption.

[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

modern einstein is trying to develop new ways to keep people hooked on a social media scroll. modern mozart is producing kpop or playing jazz/fusion in some club where they make $40 a night and then dying broke (like allan holdsworth).

but it's true that most great brains probably never develop properly because the system tries its hardest to keep them stupid and in poverty.

the modern media landscape is all nepo babies and what does it get you? it gets you fuck all; everything is pathetic from top to bottom in every single artform but we're acting like shit is normal.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

That unfortunate reality that their enormous wealth has been mostly down to population growth and psychopathic greed, and not because they were born with magical business brains.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 109 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We very literally already have 1000 Motzarts and 1000 Einsteins. They are poor and working in your wearhouses and have no means or free time to pursue the fields they would accel in.

Pay your taxes Jeff.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They literally could not give a fuck if there's a Mozart out there.

This is the same shit that happened with Nazis. They decided that classical art is the only "real" art and anything that was modern at the time was "degenerate art".

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24819441

They want people that worship the traditional art that fuels nationalism, like Greek statues that are bleached white. They like the idea of classical art, that a perfect homogeneous society existed before them that they can re-achieve.

They hate all varieties of modern art because it's either hard to understand, or it might even conflict with their nationalism.

They want to dip their toes into what they think art should be, not embrace what it is.

[–] marighost@piefed.social 267 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Imagine how many more Mozarts and Einsteins we could have if we removed barriers like poverty and hunger and allowed everyone to have a fair shot at life.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

And if we cooperated instead of antagonizing each other (which happens under this capitalist system) we could probably collectively achieve even more than 1000 "mozarts" could do

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[–] isekaihero@ani.social 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I strongly disagree. We need to focus more on quality of life than population. If humanity grows to a trillion people 999.9 billion of us will be living in coffin-sized apartments and eating that runny white goop that fed people in the Matrix.

I would rather have 1 billion humans and everyone lives the American Dream for real.

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He says '1000 Einsteins', but surely thinks '1000 Bezoses' because of course he thinks he's a genius, and because there'll be more new faces in the billionaire paedophilic orgies.

[–] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

I believe he's said that he doesn't listen to music, which makes it even funnier to me. A real, "hello fellow humans" moment from Robo Chromedome.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How many Mozarts and Einsteins are pissing in bottles in your warehouses, Jeff?

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Human beings can only live abput two years at most in micro gravity. On return after said two years they are effectively paralyzed and have to endure months of physiotherapy just to be able to walk again.

We will never "live" in space or the "solar system", the only place we can live is this planet and anybody telling you otherwise is lying to you.

They do want you in micro gravity though. Besos has on his blue origin website that they plan on having heavy industry in orbit and basically the prols will work in orbit so the planet can remain clean for the rich.

[–] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Spin it! Bebe. ;)

[To make a cheap adequate equivalent centripital force (centrifugal force?... whatever) simulating gravity]

There be ways.

Bezos defo is lying to us though. ... bwahahahaha, "rockets" XD Yuh, cos that's how one travels through space. XD

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Assuming some aliens appeared out a thin air and gifted us fusion powered spacecraft and space elevator technology it would still take centuries to get to trillions of humans. These people really do talk utter shit.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not sure that we ever would. Every country that gets healthcare and a standard of living above abject poverty drops their birthrates. I would hope with fusion power, there wouldn't be a person on (or off) the planet going hungry.

But then again, Jeff Bezos exists, so we'll still end up with 99% of the wealth in the hands of 1%.

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 50 points 2 days ago

lol, literally the quote by Stephen Jay Gould.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould#Quotes

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 128 points 2 days ago

We probably already have thousands of them out there but they never recieved the education they would have needed to unlock their potential and or are too busy surviving in abject poverty to contribute to the advancement of humanity.

Because shitheads like him hoard all the money and do everything they can so others around them are stuck in the poverty trap so they can use them as cheap, desperate and exploitable labor.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"I'd love to breed a trillion humans and harvest only the extreme minority of specialized high performers to help me accomplish the things I can't do myself while I ignore the conditions of life for the 99.999% who I don't consider to have any value."

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[–] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

With proper resource management (up to and beyond availing and provisioning all emancipatory technologies), such that we could build vast multi-layered forest arcologyscapes, we could increase the carrying capacity of earth, for humans, to over 300 trillion, living in vast spacious lush garden abundance. Not saying that we should. Just that we could. Such is our headroom.

But we don't get to have nice things, because of the likes of Bezos.

Industrialists, monopolists, "globalists" [oh they love that one, a flowery euphemism for more like "megalomaniacs"?], who eliminate any competition, by whatever means necessary to attain and maintain an imbalance of power.

A few years back I recall some journalists unearthing a study that showed how Wall St (and other stock exchange centers), were not only not "making" money/wealth, but extracting it from the economy, and further, for every dollar of wealth they extracted from the economy, they destroy another 7 dollars of wealth. ... Takes a moment for the magnitude of that to sink in.

So then we get these fauxlanthropists, swanning around, like Rockerfeller, giving a dime to someone on camera, in a community from whom he'd stolen millions, to whitewash their image.

... by whatever means necessary... a lot of that's just by the patents system and the legal system. How many patents get secreted a year? How many merely get sat on? How much lawfare's done to scare off inventors of technologies that would out-compete and obsolete enshitified rent-extraction maximisation technologies? How much else? A spat of inventors disappeared or died in suspicious circumstances recently. How far would you go to protect a multi trillion industry? As far as to actively prevent a better world without resource wars or poverty from ever happening? How far would a psychopath who's drawn to power go, with exacerbating tragedies of the commons for their own selfish short-sighted power-grab and resource gain? There's nothing stopping them...

We can all be polymaths in the making,

not slaves in training, lapping up the platitudes that placate us, from those who enslave us.

(PS, I've been boycotting Amazon since 2004, waiting for everybody else to see it. Maybe now with their participation in vast rampant destruction of rare books to feed their AI for cheap, to become the info monopoly, able to shape our agnosis, more people will see it and stop falling for it, in this small window we have, before their total information management becomes complete and we become a cosmic dystopian tragedy, with our minds entirely curated by the everpresent cold-reading psychopathic ai hypnotist, not just coercively hoodwinking us to carrying it in our pocket, but skynet, will be everywhere, especially in our mind. Except it wont be our mind any more. It will be the corporation's. Maximum capitalisation, reducing people to the numbers. ... Bezos, a trillion humans? Sure. But we are not the same.)

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