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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

If we weren't stuck in this two party system, the Democratic party would have been made obsolete a long time ago.

[-] zabadoh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There really need to be viable 3rd, 4th, 5th+ parties, plus an expansion of the number of representatives at all legislative bodies.

The concentration of representation at the Federal and state levels has made it easy to be captured by concentration of wealth.

When the Constitution was written in 1776, the US had about 2.5 million people.

Our current population in 2026 of about 350 million makes the House statistically identical to the Senate in terms of power share per member.

The same goes for most state legislative bodies.

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

And the Republican party too tbh. Tea Party, Maga, centrist neolibs, whatever the Mormons are doing, those are all their own brand of conservative

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[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 31 points 2 days ago

There is no evidence of a mass (or even mid) exodus of left voters in any recent elections. This narrative that has been crafted where Democrats blame the left for losing is societal cancer.

The left vote is both an inconsequential amount of voters that the Democrats shouldn't cater to at all while also being so large in size it's entirely responsible for them not winning.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago

Really the problem is the Democrats haven't gone far enough right. The Republican party in their rush into actual god emporer fascism has left an entire quadrant of racist right wing voters completely free for the picking! Suckers.

I apologise for the dark satire. I do think a better world is possible. Sometimes it's just harder to see than others.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Be prepared. The propaganda machine is gonna be ramping up to full soon.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

just like they did with zohran, but they had to back down, because its giving him more ammo.

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[-] MrErr@piefed.world 15 points 2 days ago

It was Biden/Harris, that helped Trump get elected.

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

And before that the DNC encouraged Trump because they thought he'd be easy for Hillary to win against.

https://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/

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[-] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 88 points 2 days ago

Two years ago, Zainab Bibi Ahmed thought she had turned her back on the Democrats for good.

People like that helped get Trump elected. Harris was far from the ideal candidate, but she would have been far and away better than Trump.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 54 points 2 days ago

Here's something I've wondered about for a while now: Why do some voters have to be assiduously courted, and it's a failure of the candidate if she doesn't win them over, while for other voters the blame falls on the voters if they don't fall in line and vote for the candidate?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago

Why do some voters have to be assiduously courted, and it's a failure of the candidate if she doesn't win them over

Because that's literally the job of a politician running for office.

for other voters the blame falls on the voters if they don't fall in line and vote for the candidate?

Because of tribalist authoritarianism and gaslighting.

It's much easier to get away with ignoring the wants and needs of your constituency when you convince them that it's about teams, not policies.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 8 points 2 days ago

It's much easier to get away with ignoring the wants and needs of your constituency when you convince them that it's about teams, not policies.

This right here.

Mine was a loaded question. After decades of this stuff, it's entirely clear to me that the difference is that Democrats do not have policy to offer many voters, so all that they have to fall back on is team boosterism. If Harris did have something substantive to offer these Michigan voters, she and her supporters would've offered it.

But they didn't, so all that they had left is what we see: Blame and derision.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

You win with the electorate you have, not the one you want.

People are idiots. Expect this.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 86 points 2 days ago

If it’s this easy to win them back and the Democrats couldn’t even bother, who’s the real idiot? They thought they could discard these votes and found out they couldn’t. Figure out how to continue treating them like people with understandable sorrow about the genocide in Gaza, or keep losing 🤷‍♂️

[-] subignition@fedia.io 63 points 2 days ago

There can be more than one idiot in a given situation

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Words to live by

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[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Didn't the DNC send Bill Clinton to Michigan and when confronted about the lackluster response of the DNC against the genocide, he started telling the attendees that it's Israel's right to the whole thing and they were there first? To a room full of Arab Americans?

https://truthout.org/articles/bill-clinton-sparks-outrage-for-racist-comments-on-gaza-at-harris-rally/

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[-] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Turns out Harris is a bad candidate

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[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Jesus christ with the gate keeping and purity testing... They are hurting the left, they are hurting us who try, and they hurt the Palestinian people.

Wait until they discover a single thing they don't like about Abdul.

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Asking your politicians not to support genocide isn’t a purity test.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 36 points 2 days ago

only because of the shutdown last year, most of the DNC made it clear they sided with israel, and by extension gop policies. if they resisted the shutdown longer the gop would suffer far more politically. the gop got everything they ever wanted from that deal.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

I like how this comments section perfectly sums up the democratic party.

Two denialists who think he's fake and a copist about Harris's loss

[-] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 days ago

They LEFT the Democrats? What happened to Vote BLUE no Matter WHO!

-People who said to vote INDEPENDENT when THEIR Blue lost the Primary!

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