Manjaro is the worst of the most popular distros.
I thought this was an anniversary of a funny event that happened one time type of meme. But no. It has happened NINE TIMES, including today.
My first distro & my never again distro. Rest in piss, manjaro
Same here. I mean, Pop OS was technically my first, but I only used that for like 2 weeks and then switched to Manjaro.
This is literally why I stopped using Manjaro.
I’ve botched 2 Manjaro installs just doing a pacman -Syu while their certs were expired and I ended up with an incomplete upgrade.
Never once had this issue with EndeavorOS.
Look, I don't want to call you a liar... so let's say maybe you meant to say pamac or got things wrong.
Because:
- That's not how
pacmanworks. If it hits a mirror with expired certs it just outputs a warning and uses another mirror. - On a fresh install Manjaro will compile an optical subset of mirrors for you based on location and response time. Those mirrors are spread around the world on different domains. It's very unlikely that your list would include ONLY
mirrors.manjaro.organdmirrors2.manjaro.org. - But even if it did, and let's say for the sake of argument there is a bug in pacman AND you got those mirrors... those two hosts are on a different certificate from manjaro.org (the website), are CNAME'd to
.rsc.cdn77.orghosts, get renewed automatically separately from the website cert, and have never been allowed to lapse afaik.
Maybe it wasn’t due to certs, but it still happened. That was enough for me to switch distros. I was much less experienced with Linux back then, so I wasn’t able to figure out how to get it working again.
So far I’ve daily-driven EndeavorOS, Mint, PopOS, and Kubuntu. None of them have broken themselves with an apt or pacman upgrade.
some iconic duos in the Linux community: Arch and AUR malware, Ubuntu and bad updates, NixOS and community/team members leaving, Manjaro and failing to renew its cert.
AUR malware
Really, something like this ever happened lol?
I'm sure it has. The idea that it's frequent is unhinged.
And @rotten@lemmy.today
Wait...please tell me y'all heard of that crazy drama recently where there was tons of AUR packages getting infostealer malware added in.
They got a lot more cautious after that incident but... I'm less keen on the AUR now...
Edit: https://archlinux.org/news/active-aur-malicious-packages-incident/
Welcome to Linux, do you want the BenevolentDictatorOS, WeaponsManifaturerOS, MalwareOS or Debian?
WeaponsManufacturerOS is Nix, obviously (they've since dropped Anduril as a sponsor but we're never going to let them live it down), MalwareOS I'm guessing is Arch, but what's BenevolentDictatorOS?
you forgot the oldest of them all, Debian and the its museum, their repos
oh my god AGAIN?!
They gotta be trolling the entire linux userbase at this point.
Yep... Validation of my decision to cachyos after my last drive needed surgery.
I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.
Bad memory/routines? We have to be related. Since that feels like me.
Again????? Again???????????
BINGO!
In fact I got a full 5x5 card of bingo because I wrote "Manjaro doesn't renew its cert" in all of the boxes.
HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN
They managed this again by not actually managing it... again.
Why set a reminder when an expiration will do the same job
Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha
At this point, it's a tradition!
Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?
Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?
Because manjaro.org is controlled personally by Phil, the CEO of the company, who's paranoid about letting anybody else handle it. And also can't figure out how to renew automatically, apparently. People have to remind him on Discord. 🤦
Everything else *.manjaro.org (forums, mirrors etc.) is handled by different people and have never expired afaik.
It's literally just the main webpage that has this problem, everything else about the distro is never impacted.
Why isn't it for everyone? How often I see this with, I mean, major actors is head shakingly baffling.
I work in tech for telco and the amount of people around me who have zero clue about x509/TLS/certificates in general is absolutely baffling
I work in a telco and I have no clue what you just said to me.
But in tech?
The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster).
That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already… so even an LLM could spit it out for them.
Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.
Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.
Holy shit this is so stupid I can't defend them anymore 😂😂
lmao, what're they up to now, 8 times?
A little stability and consistency in the world, manjaro always delivers when it comes to this.
I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.
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