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[-] hamsamrich@lemmy.world 205 points 2 months ago

“Quantum sensors can sense the tiniest of changes in the gravity or magnetic field and use a previously prepared map of these properties to determine their location. Since a quantum sensor does not need to receive or send a signal to an external device, it cannot be hacked or be spoofed by a fake incoming signal either. “ Very cool!

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 91 points 2 months ago

*Cant be Non-magnetically hacked

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 41 points 2 months ago

Cue magnetic mines, but where are you getting the gravitic mines from?

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 38 points 2 months ago

If it works off tiny changes in gravity, a really big rock would work.

[-] lauha@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago

Our mission is to sneak this Ayers rock under the boat without being detected. In and out. 45 minutes tops.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 months ago

I was going to say something about the scale of gravity changes needed, but your take is way better. Cheers.

[-] Quokka@quokk.au 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most people probably don’t know but we call it Uluru these days as that’s what the local Aboriginal people named it. Ayers Rock is the old coloniser name, and pretty out of fashion.

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[-] SavinDWhales@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Well, to be fair, a big rock would also work on a GPS device, if applied directly to it.

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[-] masta_chief@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Ah time to make use of my massive tungsten cube

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[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 48 points 2 months ago

Don't these fields fluctuate in some currently not understood way?

[-] edg@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Yes, constantly. The prepared map becomes less accurate over time.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 months ago

So you constantly need updated maps. Reminds me of celestial navigation where you always need an up-to-date almanac.

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Hhhmmmm, sounds perfect for the subscription model......

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[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 months ago

It's going to be missiles again isn't it?

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[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

So, like terrain-matching, but gravity field. Cool!

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[-] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 95 points 2 months ago

The team achieved 10 times better performance than GNSS systems, with a one nautical mile of positioning accuracy.

Variation up to a full nautical mile doesn't seem very accurate?

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 162 points 2 months ago

this article is better written:

https://science.report/discover/quantum-gravimeter-demonstrates-gps-free-navigation-in-coral-sea-trial-86654/

it maintained bounded position accuracy within 1 nautical mile over an 83-kilometer trajectory. This performance, achieved without access to satellite navigation, represents a more than tenfold improvement over standard navigation-grade inertial backup systems under similar conditions.

[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 62 points 2 months ago

It also doesn't pretend the page failed to load when it detects an ad blocker.

[-] Dimand@aussie.zone 31 points 2 months ago

Here is the real article without the compounding editorial errors.

https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2608.25563

[-] SatanClaws@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Inertial navigation (INSS) and GNSS (Sat nav)is two completely different concepts. Too bad the article misses this. Perhaps AI hallucinations?

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 2 months ago

That's comparable to what a skilled navigator can do with a sextant and chronometer. That's more than enough accuracy to cross the ocean and get close enough to the port that you can see it.

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[-] hasnep@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago

If I were in the middle of the ocean I couldn't find my location within 100 nautical miles without GPS so I'm pretty impressed

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[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe GNSS stands for maGNetic compaSs and Sextant?

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[-] Dimand@aussie.zone 68 points 2 months ago
[-] Dearth@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago

Navigation with a suitcase sized device that doesn't rely on hundreds of thousands of satellites? Honestly this sounds great.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 2 months ago

Wait until you hear about compasses and maps!

[-] hoherd@programming.dev 31 points 2 months ago

In the middle of the ocean? Wouldn't that require a sextant, night time, and a lot of expertise?

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Not even thousands

Not even hundreds

Try 31

You're literally off by a factor of 3225

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[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

The trouble with Quantum Navigation is you might end up where you were trying to go, but at a random point in the past where you have to change history to put right something that once went wrong.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

As long as you keep it below 88 miles per hour you'll be fine.

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[-] vane@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Perfect for autonomous military robots.

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[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Using quantum sensors, the company achieved ten times the accuracy of conventional satellite-based navigation systems, while maintaining the one nautical mile positioning accuracy.

Don't we use GPS accurate to within centimeters for construction?

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

High-end dual-frequency receivers ($$$) can do this, yes. But the earth's magnetic field is not controlled by any government or military entities. This is pretty big

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[-] charles@lemmy.charles.wiki 11 points 2 months ago

The only significant word here is "quantum". This stuff is too expensive to be useful for anyone other than the military right now. Gravity maps are controlled information as well. Used for ballistic submarine missiles. The maps created by the military will never be made public. (It would look like a highway of where every vessel is or will be)The accuracy of satellite measurements is 3km, with physical topographic (sea/land) resolution at 1.2km. The long-term plan is to have these sensors traverse areas, record data, and then share it with a database. Even those maps are realistically only 300m~ in resolution. Compare that to GPS, which has a nominal resolution of 3m with 15 satellites, or about a foot, with a correction from ground relays. (I remember using a handheld device that would tell you how many you were connected to, and it stopped working once you were near a tree.) Gravimeters have been used by submarines since the 1980s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravimetry

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