Corporations are not people and should not have any rights to public space or resources, that includes publicly available information. We don't put things in the commons to be pilfered by private interests, we can't have a commons when they can pilfer them. But here we are.
The problem is that Flock Safety CEO Garrett Langley is beyond the reach of public justice. He and his company are committing grievous wrongdoing against the people of the United States, and yet there is no judicial or civil recourse.
And while he remains free, he continues to commit further injustices including providing a service that enables predators and doesn't actually prevent or solve crime. (None that they were able to demonstrate by studies, and instead lied about what their studies said.)
So while I can't endorse the methods a plumber's brother might take, I can certainly understand them.
And doxxing doesn't even rise to that occasion.
I'm not going to criticize doxing this guy any more than I would other evil fucks, such as Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk or Peter Thiel, all of whom wish us harm and have great power to do so.
Now, to be clear, doxxing someone is completely indefensible and dangerous because it puts real people in physical danger.
Fuck that. This guy deserves to be doxed and deserves every potential outcome of being doxed.
To be guillotined would be more mercy than he is owed.
I agree, it’s time to kill the rich!
They don't see the rest of us as anything but cattle at best.
big tech CEOs are not people. they are rats.
They're paperclip optimizers. We've designed an economy that said "make people compete for dollars, it'll give us the best products" and sure enough the people who rise to the top do nothing but ruthlessly compete on getting dollars. And just like the thought experiment, in the race to gather more dollars, they trample the human race.
Parasites. Scrape them off, crush them with your boot. They require no more consideration than that.
Nah. They are human. To deny that is to deny that which makes a person stoop so low as to become a CEO (rhyme initially not intended but damnit I'll still take credit for it)
Plus, I respect rats too much to demean them like that
Rats are good people
This is dehumanization. It is the tool of the enemy. We do not need it. We will not use it.
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If you dehumanize persons, you aren't a leftist or revolutionary or the resistance or an activist. You are a fascist.
Ok, I see your point but in a fascist society, what else can you do to stop him? Harsh language? A lawsuit you can't afford?
Oh, violence, even lethal violence might be necessary in defense of self or others. But, we must not deny that we are dealing with persons. I'm not even saying don't dox the guy, I'm saying that don't forget that you are doxing a person.
The focus should be on rehabilitating the person and remediating any harm they have caused, not on returning harm with harm. Of course, if they are being violent or legitimately threatening violence, defensive violence SHOULD be taken to contain/control/remove the threat.
Violating his privacy might be a good lesson in how "we should balance privacy and safety" as part of his rehabilitation, but we can do that without dehumanization.
Agreed. And as @noxypaws@pawb.social have said, it is important to realise and remain vigilant that humans can be capable of great harm, and that we ourselves are not immune if we're not carefully with ourselves. Otherwise we might ourselves becomes grown complacent and reproduce those harms on others in some form or another.
Oh no! This guy is in danger! We should set up a ton of security cameras around his house so we can all keep an eye on him and make sure he's safe!
if he did nothing wrong he shouldn't have anything to fear.
We should probably just have his computer searched on basic principles, since these guys always turn out to be paedophiles. Always, like literally every single time.
makes sense, they are passing a lot of child protection laws to protect children that infringe on privacy of computer users. He's probably making that AI CSPAN or whatever it is.
Now, to be clear, doxxing someone is completely indefensible and dangerous because it puts real people in physical danger. But the irony here is thick.
Hmmmm. Putting nazis in physical danger is very defensible i think.
I just like the idea that knowing where he lives in some way puts him in more danger than he already was before. Anyone who really wanted him dead would already has this information.
So basically him being docxed is just about telling everyone where he lives. He doesn't want that because it'll result in protesters turning up on his lawn but his life is not in any more danger.
He has nothing to fear if he has done nothing wrong. That's what he and his supporters say, right?
Their CEO, Garrett Langley, went on Fox News recently and argued that […] we all just need to accept a "compromise" between privacy and safety.
I’m struck by what a giant load of bullshit this is and how Flock (and copycat companies like Axion) are just facilitating the sort of police state that would be required to make something like Project 2025 possible.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
— The U.S.’s own kite-flyin’, not slave fuckin’ (wrong guy, sorry!), $100 dollar bill havin’ Bennie F.
Ben Franklin was very progressive for his time. He owned a few slaves early in his life, but soon freed them and spent the rest of his life as one of that time period's most outspoken critics of slavery. He even bought a printing press so he could spread anti-slavery rhetoric more effectively.
You have internet, there's no excuse for being wrong unless you just like spreading misinformation.
Oh, shoot, you’re right. I had just woken up. I was thinking of Jefferson.
Damnit. Thank you for pointing that out.
Side note: Axon is the older of the two companies, and has been making police body cams for over 30 years
I think most of us are on-board with police body cameras. The fundamental difference is that they are recording things in the presence of the police, and that they have the measurable benefit of holding the police accountable to their actions (sometimes).
we all just need to accept a "compromise" between privacy and safety.
You will be safe from retribution when you respect our privacy and stop spying on us.
That's a fair "compromise ", isn't it?
Ben Franklin didn't do no slave fucking. Hell's wrong with you?
Ben Franklin fucked anything that moved.
Set up cameras around his house, not pointing directly at his house. Then make some software to guess when he is home or not and what vehicle he left in. Then sell that data to anyone for a cent. Include wi-fi and bluetooth tracking too.
Nah man, we gotta get the cameras RIGHT in his house. What if someone gets in we couldn't see from the outside?
That's true. He is on record stating that safety is more important than privacy. I'm sure he won't mind.
Does this community permit doxxing in this type of circumstance?
They broke the social contract, for me it should be.
It's on world so probably not, there's a couple of instances that are more willing to allow it for egregious assholes though.
Be a shame if 10000 flock cameras were installed in his front yard.
What about axon? They are taking contracts over now... Sucks cause this company also helps with body cameras and those are good.
Axon is formally known as TASER. They're part of the reason behind the militarization of our police
Apparently Axon doesn't have the same national network. So a cop in Texas can't track his ex or a woman going for an abortion in Oklahoma.
I still don't like having ALPR type cameras all over town, though.
Such a rookie!
Didn't he know, in order to pull such stunts with the general public, you have to live in private jets and yachts only.
Fuck around, Find out!
Flock around, find out
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