Android auto now blocked if you use a VPN? : privacy

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago

Thats happened for ages for me, and its because the headunit needs to connect directly to your phone, which many VPN apps break intentionally.

[-] eodur@piefed.social 22 points 2 weeks ago

This has always been an issue. There is a specific IP address range you can exclude on your VPN though.I think its 192.168.49.0/24.

[-] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Ooh good to know, if this works

[-] Zomg@piefed.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

This has always been a thing

[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Works for me with Mullvad on GrapheneOS.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I added an exclusion for android auto in wireguard. This also only happens if you use wireless android auto.

[-] Unfold1127@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Always been an issue on wireless AA for most VPNs. Just exclude the Android Auto app or put an exclusion for the IP range mentioned in this thread.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Just exclude the Android Auto app

Doesn't work since they've baked AA into the operating system a couple years ago

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Android Auto, ew

[-] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

What's the alternative?

[-] MML@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I found this out the other day, it doesn't matter if you allow just Android Auto through VPN either, seems to be another Google service blocking it.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've had no trouble with setting it up in the exceptions list in the Rethink DNS filtering and VPN app.

[-] MML@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can try again at some point, wire guard app

[-] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago

How do people deal with this, do you turn off VPN whenever getting in a car?

[-] discozombie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on the client, but wireguard has application exceptions.

[-] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Have you tried to split tunnel android auto to bypass the vpn?

[-] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'll give it a try. I'm a bit surprised it's needed since the VPN excludes local network connections anyway

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Try enabling local/LAN access in the VPN app

[-] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

plug it in via us when u need to use it. that works even if u have vpn

[-] makeshift0546@lemmy.today -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Always has been. Turn off the vpn or don’t use it 🤷.

[+] unitedwithme@lemmy.today -9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have a full-proof solution that all you privacy-conscious Lemmings will love!!

Tap for answer

Don't fucking use Android Auto. Check out https://privacy4cars.com/ while you're at it as to why it's a bad idea

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's literally just a sales website. I don't see any indicator of why it's a bad idea, just a pitch of an enterprise and an individual solution for a problem it doesn't explain.

[-] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't get it

[-] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

Y'all can down vote me all you want but seems a little hypocritical. We're talking about using Android auto in your car, on a privacy group. It's not a privacy conscious practice is my point.

Automotive companies love all that data, and collect it, monetize it to data brokers, insurance "risk data brokers" etc. KIA/Hyundai and Nissan are there worst for it!

"According to Mozilla research, popular global brands — including BMW, Ford, Toyota, Tesla, Kia, and Subaru — can collect deeply personal data such as sexual activity, immigration status, race, facial expressions, weight, health and genetic information, and where you drive."

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

"Analysts estimate that by 2030, car data monetization could be an industry worth $750 billion."

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

They're downvoting you because you linked the head of a sales site.

if you would have linked https://privacy4cars.com/survivor-abuse-guide/ they might have not been so down on your actions

[-] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Android Auto is only a display for your phone. How is it a privacy risk?

[-] Zulu@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Would you give a stranger your phone so it can read you directions or tell you that you have a text from your mom? What if the stranger read it aloud for you? What if that stranger was hundreds of thousands of people called a company and they were selling that data to their other friends who charge you money for car insurance?

[-] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, modern cars are a privacy nightmare. Yes, modern smartphones are a privacy nightmare. But what does Android Auto have to do with any of this? All it does is run a second screen for your phone.

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