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[-] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 101 points 4 days ago

I never bought the whole bullshit line of “The device could technically be recording you, but it isn’t. Trust us.” Good on GamersNexus for doing the legwork to prove it isn’t true.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Any device with a speaker can be retasked to use it as a microphone.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well... No. And opamp output is fully different than an opamp input. They aren't reversible.

The electronics would have to be specially designed to be a transceiver instead of just a speaker output (I mean, they definitely can do it, it just is more work and more cost)

It would be 10x cheaper just to put a microphone in it.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

Sort of. Most of them would need a change in hardware to support it.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A bit click baity. They won't get sued.

I have some very specific examples where I can prove MS teams is scraping conversations and selling data. Twice I've had meeting about very unusual specific chemical compounds where I was then solicited by synthesis companies within 48hrs.

Don't discuss novel IP on Teams.

But the TV market is highly competitive and they are all basically the same thing (sorry nerds). You would think a truly disconnected TV would be a sales feature at this point. Unless the TV business is not actually about selling you a TV.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 12 points 3 days ago

Don't discuss novel IP on Teams.

Because my company forces us to use it, and because I know they're both watching every conversation and believe it's kept only within the company, I feel no compunction to keep company secrets off of there.

They had Mattermost set up and working well, but somebody in the C-suite got FOMO.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

yeah its up to the company to determine how its going to do business.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

There's a bunch of products that clearly aren't selling to consumers anymore. Cars were the first one I noticed, about 15-20 years ago. When I was growing up, cars came in an absolute rainbow of colors. Ever since the early '00s, all the colors have disappeared, except corpo friendly colors like white, grey, gold, silver, tan, black, and the occasional blue or red. Almost no green, orange, or yellow cars even exist anymore. The car manufacturers don't care about us consumers buying a single car. They'd rather sell a fleet at a loss of profit per unit, but so many units they don't care.

The same thing is happening to electronics, TV's, and to a certain extent, housing. If you want a "dumb TV," search for a "commercial display panel." You'll pay like 3 times more, but those don't have the intrusive data collection crap.

[-] Hugh@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You can also buy computer monitors up to about 32" to use as a TV. Above 32" all the OLED displays seem to be curved or ultra wide.

Also projectors don't tend to have smart features.

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

FYI: this video has zero actual substance. It's just advertising upcoming videos and asking for support. Which is fine, but for a 30 min video I expected more.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago

The full version wasn't available at the time that I posted it, but it is now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Awesome thank you

[-] DeadEndLink@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 days ago

Smart TV's are terrifying. I'm still rocking an old 2008 flat screen that can't handle 1080p..

[-] plateee@piefed.social 23 points 4 days ago

I have a "smart" TV. It wouldn't let me get past setup until I put it on wifi, so I spun up a hotspot, then immediately killed it and just plugged in a micro PC running Linux to the HDMI port.

Occasionally, I'll sit on the remote and a pop up happens saying I'll need to connect to the Internet for to work, but that's about it.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you watch the video, (oh boy was it long but informative) it likely is still spying on you rampantly and using neighbors as hotspot points to send the data.

Unlike smartphones, they are plugged in so they can just run speech to text (and the TVs that the op had could hear 20m away in other rooms with the mic array) forever. If you sell the TV or something and it ever connects to the internet again, it will likely dump all of that plaintext data corresponding to your physical location.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

2011 TV here, it thankfully is 1080p capable, and I'm clinging onto it for dear life. If anything in it fails, I'll definitely be attempting a repair.

[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

I picked up a second hand circa 2011 nearly smart TV. It's sony 65" 1080x1920 plenty of inputs. Was a high end device of it's day.

Cost me $100.

Unfortunately we will run out of old devices like this at some point.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

i only got rid of my 20in CRT television about two-and-a-half years ago.

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 37 points 4 days ago

In related topics, RTINGS has also done an investigation on how complex is it to opt out of ACR: rtings.com/tv/learn/research/s…

[-] plateee@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago
[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 7 points 4 days ago

I see... There was a video based on this study as well, not sure if you mean that: youtube.com/watch?v=IvFu343KNe…

[-] plateee@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago

Are you posting from Lemmy? That link also is incomplete.

By incomplete, I mean the link is missing some text and it's being replaced by "...".

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 6 points 4 days ago

I use Friendica, in that case let me edit my post to make the links explicit

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 13 points 4 days ago

From Piefed, it looks like the link is visually shortened, but you should be able to tap or click it to open the full link. You can also right-click and copy the link, if you want to inspect it. That's unfortunately a quirk on Piefed's side.

[-] plateee@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

Weird, it must be a combination of the Summit app and piefed - if I open it in a browser, the link is there. Apologies for taking up your time!

[-] pwalker@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

I can confirm, having the same problem with summit+piefed account. Link only works with summit+lemmy . Piefed support in summit is unfortunately experimental still I think. Probably the maintainers will fix it though if you report it. They are pretty active from my experience Really like the app.

[-] bad1080@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

link is working fine

[-] mofongo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago

The links are complete. Long press on them to see the full link.

[-] Danitos@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago

In my case it is complete, it simply was turned into a ref. In Markdown, you can create a link that will display a blue text but refer you to an actual link:

Example

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

I have a newish TCL that runs android's TV OS and I've never connected it to a network and it never has bothered me again about connecting. I am sure it's recording our convos but it isn't uploading them at least.

I did scramble a few settings like a BS static IP, a BS DNS, gateway, etc.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 4 points 4 days ago

This is almost as exciting as them just coming right out and saying "New Merch Drop", which is to say very.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago
[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bit convoluted but the gist of it is this:

as exciting as [thing], which is to say [very]

thing = very

As exciting as very

Very exciting

English is kind of scuffed in that the order of words only sounds correct or not based on how often you've heard it said that way before.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago
[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

There's supposed to be a comma before "very", right?

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