Complain online.
And the stickers, don't forget the stickers
Everyone's statistical likelihood of starvation will go up a bit.
I'm just going to eat people.
Corporations are people. Billionaires aren't people.
who is "we"? as of now, there's still oil being extracted and fertilizer being produced, just a bit less of it. if you live in a western country you don't have to worry too much about it, except higher prices of food and everything that gets transported. if you're a subsistence farmer in a place like bangladesh then you're to some degree fucked
Beans, start talking about beans
The amount of excess food will go way down and the price will go up, which will mostly affect third world countries. A lot of people will starve at the beginning.
Couple this with clean water scarcity that will exasperate diseases and the human population will drop toward sustainable numbers.
Then Sally Struthers will ask you to donate "the price of a daily cup of coffee" and 1/1000 people will start giving $2000 per year to feed the hungry...
Good news! Soylent Green can solve all three with a bit of processing.
I recommend checking out Nate Hagens Youtube channel "The Great Simplification." He's been working on this for years and his videos are brilliant. Here's a few good ones I randomly picked as starting points:
How might daily life feel in the next decades? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlkAeQ5xdeQ
Protect the irreversible - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfzVhTWMDM
How to play 5D chess - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPctKcmnTvQ
And his most recent one, 4 things we can't afford to get wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtWQjRa0GY
I know recommending videos sucks, who the hell has half an hour to watch a video suggested by an internet stranger? But this guy is the goods in my opinion, he's worth a listen and I hope at least one person checks him out.
There's not such a massive difference between where we are now and where we need to be to disconnect from fossil fuels
- More meals will be vegetarian
- Food selection will be more seasonal and local
- More people will work from home or take public transit or bike
- More people will have kitchen gardens
- More farmers will use permaculture techniques to reduce input fertilizer needs
- More humanure will be collected and used as fertilizer
- More solar panels will produce more power for home heat pumps to keep buildings comfortable
- More farmers will have electric tractors and farm batteries
Matt Damon found a way to make fertilizer on Mars.
Was going to say: methane and fertilizer both semi-abundant from natural sources, just need to scale back the industrial over-use of them.
Watch the oceans and waterways heal a little before finding a new way to ruin them.
As soon as the war is over we have to stop all international ships that have been stuck there, they will otherwise act as super spreaders for invasive ocean species
We can make fuel from air using the Fischer-Tropsch Process. It's basically the "bad guy reaction" that countries use when the world cuts them out of the oil supply. Like Germany during ww2.
But for a more hopeful take. Maybe we will be less reliant on gas. And there's plenty of stuff we can use as fertilizer
Germany made synthetic fuels from coal during WW2, not air.
Fischer-Tropsch can work with any carbon source, including CO2 and carbon monoxide. And oil is getting close to the point that F-T becomes economically viable.
Synthesizing CH-Chains from air is painfully energy-inefficient. Now that we have good electric motors its smarter to use that energy to power them directly.
The poor parts of the world with lacking electrical infrastructure who also couldn't afford ""e-fuels"" to replace gasoline would have a pretty hard transition.
What we lack is the rare earth minerals for electricity storage. We're going to have to war a bit for those.
Sodium-ion batteries use either no or much less rare earth metals and are particularly suited to stationary energy storage.
When are we going to run out of gas and fertilizer?
Probably gonna be a lot of days where I warm rooms with the space heaters rather than run the boiler looking at the cost of fuel. Tbh the super El Niño might be a blessing in disguise for many folks in colder climates this year. Drive a lot less (my kind admin transferred me to 3 minutes from my house) and cut down on non-essentials. Teaching the kids about waste, eating all our leftovers, etc.
Don't be so sure of the heat from the el niño keeping y'all warm during winter. It destabilizes the jet streams around the poles and that makes the super cold air from the poles advance much further south than usual, with huge shifts on temperature when they quickly pass over the land. This last winter in the southern hemisphere had a lot of cold fronts that broke records, with heat waves jumping in between, making it hell for those living there (ask me how I know)
Yeah I’m more or less crossing my fingers. But i know I’ll be coughing up an entire paycheck in reality. Personally I can eat it but I know a lot of people in my area cannot.
Might have to go vegan and reduce the amount of resources needed to support a person to a sustainable level. Scary stuff
Before it goes down to absolutely nothing, it will have declined for so long that you already know the answer.
Which, unless you use gas and fertilizer directly, will be "shit's getting more expensive" - some of which prohibitively so, and alternative products/solutions will be deployed.
BTW, crops do grow without fertilizer. Which comes from many places btw. May I introduce Western Sahara, a humanitarian and alround ethical desaster not many people talk about.
And gas? You mean for heating or cooling or simply energy? Same answer, basically.
And who is "we"? The fediverse? Some country? The whole world?
Starve
make it from biogas? we can already synthesise basically every oil-based product from non-fossil means, it's just more expensive.
Economic viability is extremely significant. It "just" becoming more expensive is often enough to kill it in favor of more viable alternatives.
well then, let's keep going with the fossil fuel taxes.
There are many ways to fertilise soil and many ways to create energy.
This. We need to prepare for a world where we will be spending the bulk of our income on basic commodities that are currently still cheap.
Light shit on fire
Hurt each other and steal.
Competition to secure critical resources is one of the major driving factors in conflict. So we will probably a lot more wars breaking out and some borders shifting. Especially with the cost of war being lower than ever.
Governments around the world will need to increase taxes and borrow then spend to keep people employed and afloat. A lot of places were in a bad spot before so idk what they'll do. Im not enjoying living in such interesting times thats for sure.
Suffer.
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