"You were right to push back - that runway was in fact occupied"
Absolute worst possible use of an LLM: something safety-critical.
I'm sorry, you're right. I should not have directed that plane to the runway with the two planes that have already crashed into each other.
It's fine the first two have obviously canceled each other out leaving the runway clear.
This is an Air Traffic Control system, once it’s on that a ground traffic control system.
No, no, it's sorting the crashes. If it had directed the planes to other runways, then there would be more crashes to clean up.
because we havent had enough air disasters in the past 2 years.
Ah yes, the same technology that was used to kill 123 Iranian school children
The intern got the weights wrong for high value targets.
900 million could just hire a lot of skilled engineers and air traffic operators that can be well paid but that doesn’t sound as cool and futuristic as AI
Well, here's hoping they are in charge of Air Force One.
What an absolute slap in the face for the underpaid and overworked ATCs. Been bitching about more money for years?
Naaah how about your boss is now a clanker
That's the end of me flying. The wife and I will now take extra days, get a rental and have us a road trip
AI is indeed to blame - but not like you think.
Trump's ChatGPT prompt after translation into natural language: I want to kill some sand people for fun and giggles. Which country did fight back the least in the past against aerial attacks?
Hi Claude, How do I test my backup fiber link so I won't find out it's down when the primary is cut?
I can't see a single thing that could go wrong with this.
Is this an LLM style AI, or a machine learning AI.
If it's a LLM, it's not worth a penny
If it's a true machine learning AI, then I can see the worth of it.
You're absolutely right to push back, I should have landed that plane before it ran out of fuel. Would you like me to explore options for funerals?
You have been added to the Best of Lemmy: https://sh.itjust.works/post/67115517
The fuel is the load bearing component of the equation.
Worth stating plainly: arrival at the airport is gated on the fuel quantity being more than zero.
So a quick search suggests air traffic controllers make around $75,000 annually. $875 million would pay the salaries of 11,666 air traffic controllers for a decade at that wage.
Even considering inflation, training, medical, etc that $875,000,000 could pay for thousands of hired Amemricans for a decade. Republicans are literally the worst.
$75,000 annually
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports about double that as the median pay ($148,080).
I still agree with the rest of your math and think the investment is worth it, but just clarifying the number.
the other issue is aparently it's hard to get people to do that job.
It's hard to find people with the requisite skills who can tolerate the shit working conditions and occasional extended periods of intense stress. I had a job that required me to interact with a group of controllers. Almost all had the cork in too tight. I met several who later died of heart attacks in their late 40s or early 50s.
I do believe its considered top 2 most stressful jobs, not hard to see why
I know someone who’s atc. He described it as “very very slow Tetris, but when you misplace a piece someone dies.”
I was listening to live ATC broadcast this evening for O'Hare ground control.
Jesus tapdancing Christ, no idea how they do it.
All you hear is a steady stream of instructions like "j1234, approach 10L and hold, then sierra sierra golf tango tango alpha" which are "directions" for pilots to taxi to a gate.
They are ripping them off at hyperspeed, no mistakes. The audio quality of some pilots is just terrible but somehow they know wtf they said. They have dozens of planes on the ground at a time, organizing the chaos of them all without blinking. In the hour I listened, I heard one dude doing it all, though I think there are two different ground controllers.
Planes blocking taxiways, pilots misunderstanding instructions, someone is taking too long to push back from the gate and they're making changes and adapting on the fly.
Holy shit y'all.
Listen for yourself and try to figure it out. Audio: https://www.liveatc.net/play/kord1n2_gnd_in.pls Ground mapd: https://www.flightaware.com/resources/airport/ORD/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM/pdf
Good luck.
This touches on an interesting point: relying solely on radio for route instructions is archaic and we desperately need to overhaul it with a digital alternative. Why can't we take some of that budget to modernize ATC?
People might reconsider if we give them a 30hr work week, but still pay the full salary. Some jobs are just harder and time worked doesn't equal effort. I've had 2 day stints that should have paid me more than the entire preceding month!
What I'm trying to say is that the people who run America are unwilling to pay to do it right.
The problem is finding qualified people to be controllers. IiRC, something like 3000 apply for certification per year and only 150 make it.
This position should really pay alot more than it does
That should go swimmingly
Only if there’s a body of water near the terminal.
I think they should test it out on the private jets first. Ya know, to make sure it all works great.
I guess the next time I want to travel internationally I'll take a train to Canada and fly out from there.
Welp, I'm never flying again. And fuck my house is in a main flight path.
I don't see ANY comments in here where it's clear that people read the fucking article.
"Har har, AI and ATC, I'll make a funny joke about flying will be unsafe". Yes, it's expected, but if you actually read what this is - it's going to issue predictions about how busy particular times are, basically.
ZERO use of the AI in the tower by ATC to control aircraft in any way.
Sure, they might try to introduce such a thing - at which time your jokes will actually apply!
it’s going to issue predictions about how busy particular times are, basically.
and for that it's somehow worth $875M.
ZERO use of the AI in the tower by ATC to control aircraft in any way.
For now.
FAA describes the SMART system
The media and old boomers are going to love talking about this system the moment a plane crashes.
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
