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pretty telling that first reation of some here can be summed with: what is really white?

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[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is your daily reminder that Irish and Italians weren't considered white at the beginning of the 20th century in America.

Hell, some people in Europe don't consider albanians to be white.

Also I'd be very concerned as to where all the racial minorities went. Like genuinely concerned.

[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago

One of my favorite facts was that West Side Story was initially about the rivalry between polish and Italian immigrants in New York and Leonard Bernstein had to rework it because he received feedback that it would be too niche and people who didn't live in New York in a very specific window of time wouldn't get it.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

People who don't live in Europe don't even realise how divided white Europeans are. The Irish and Eastern Europeans are even victims of colonisation.

And forget North America and Europe, just look at Africa and tell me they did not have inter-ethnic conflicts.

The post is very silly and North Americancentric.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago

Literally Brexit was mostly about Brits not liking other Europeans being free to move to Britain, especially Poles.

I lived in London and unless they actually start talking and you hear their accent (or, even "worse" for the average Brit, their language) you can't actually tell a Pole from a Brit.

So. yeah, a fucking mid-sized country in the modern era has left a massive European trade union which gave them massive benefits (it has been estimated that Britain's GDP is growing 2% less every year because of leaving) because of their xenophobia against other Europeans, especially Eastern and Southern Europeans.

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[-] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 97 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In no particular order:

  • Mourn the loss of numerous family, friends, and acquaintances.
  • Panic and prepare for the impending crash of my society's essential supply chains.
  • Existential meltdown at the idea that billions of people can vanish overnight.

What a stupid fucking question.

[-] GloriousGasHole@piefed.social 35 points 4 days ago

I'd probably start by trying to figure out what the fuck happened to everyone.

[-] hayvan@piefed.world 105 points 4 days ago

It will be skin colour again, but limited to a tighter spectrum.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 114 points 4 days ago

People really forget that racism against Italians and Irish was a thing.

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[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 28 points 4 days ago

It'll just be the intra-European racism that already exists, which doesn't particularly follow skin color.

Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, Mediterranean, etc.. Each with their own subdivisions ready to go if the others were wiped out.

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[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 69 points 4 days ago

Depending on your definition of 'white', probably start scavenging for the upcoming crisis. The loss of like 90% of the world's population will create a supply chain crisis and general systems collapse. Who knows what skills and technologies are lost.

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[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago

History already showed what happens. 90% chance people start going for the Irish.

[-] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Don't forget Italians.

Also Catholics in general.

People are incredibly good at creating out-groups and attacking them.

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[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago

The far right already dislike white people from eastern Europe

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Dead ass what would happen, gingers would become the new "blacks"

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

It will be hair color first. I have red hair so I'm next on the petty hate machine.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

STORMIN LIGHTEYES

[-] urandom@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago
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[-] PapaTorque@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

You didn't even have to remove white people for black people to start subdividing into shades of black. Racism is stupid. Being a certain race doesn't make it any more or less stupid for you to do it.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 days ago

The semantical arguments about who counts as “white” already exist and often in very hate filled ways. Alt right “preserve the white race” people already try to bring back the pre world war 2 “Italians don’t count as white” nonsense. And of course tons of Italian Americans are certainly not known for progressive stances

So basically targets would shift?

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Having just come from the "taking things too literally" thread, contexts like these make it fun to deliberately take it too literally.

What would I do if I woke up and there were only white people left? I'd probably think "what the fuck is going on" as I see only white people floating around in empty space, and then I'd die from a mix of lack of oxygen, hypothermia, and lack of pressure.

Though maybe I'd first ask a clarifying question, like if that "black people" was just an example or would there still be like asians, and latinos? Do Irish and Italians count as white for this question? Basically set it up to look like I'm engaging with the question in good faith before taking the "clarification" to the extreme and giving the above answer.

And then poke at whatever new edge cases they leave when they try to clarify again, until I get bored and just disengage because it was a fucking dumb question.

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[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

This goes for every human population, by the way.

What, you think only Europe had racism and discrimination through history?

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[-] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago
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[-] Molag_Ballee@fedinsfw.app 31 points 4 days ago

"White" is a relatively modern concept, and one that can be quite nebulous. I see some people call Bernie Sanders white, but I also see white nationalists who dont consider Jews white. Back when the British were committing a genocicde against the Irish and driving millions of Catholic refugees into a predominantly Protestant America they weren't considered white. Some Nazis considered Japanese people "honorary whites". People around the Mediterranean are a whole mixed bag- Italians, Greeks, and Spaniards have all been treated as white or non-white at times. Racists still debate whether Cleopatra and other Coptic Egyptians should count as "white" or not.

And of course Europeans have been making up divisions and killing each other over it for centuries. The very concepts of "Italy" and "France" and "Germany" and "Spain" and the like are pnky a few generations old.

It's not just "white" people though. The Japanese have a history of committing atrocities against their neighbors in Korea and China. Chinese history is largely the story of the Han people conquering the nations around them, and they are still committing genocide against groups like the Uyghurs and Tibetans today. Sudan had the genocide of the Darfuri in the early 2000's. The Rohingya genocide in Myanmar is still ongoing. We could go on and on.

The idea that only "white" people are racist is, itself, a racist idea.

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[-] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Non-American here...... So it's only black people or are my best drinking buddies (Bosnian and Turkish) Even more important question does my Chinese wife, my half Chinese daughter and my wonderful mother-in-law still exist...?

I get this question is from an American who doesn't actually understand the world.. But it makes me very irate.

If this was Reddit I'd go on a long drunken rant...(I actually started trying to explain)

Holy shit America, Elon Musk is the reason you are suffering right now.

Define white though. Does it include traditionally "olive skinned" nationalities?

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

They already did, if that didn't exist, they'd divide themselves by language, which is a thing in Europe, except it got less popular due to the importing of American White Nationalism.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 4 days ago

You'd think it would be hair color which is easier to spot at a distance, with the familiar "brighter is better" rule placing the blond[e]s on top.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

they will divide by the whites that have darker skin, then goes to religion , like jewish people.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The left handed people will be beat again. They know what they did.

Also, are we counting the Irish as black again?

[-] LazyOldPervert@lemmus.org 8 points 3 days ago

To be fair people without brown eyes are heretics and heathens

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 8 points 3 days ago

Pretty rich, coming from a mudeye

Blue eyes came from a mutation! Death to the muties!!!!

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Surelly anti-gingerism would become the norm.

(Though maybe that's just an UK thing)

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[-] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

5 hour podcast explaining why brown-eyed people aren't technically "white" about to hit Truth Social...

[-] JordanZ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The Sneetches learned their lesson…we have not.

[-] stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago
[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

Something something Stormlight Archive.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago

they already divide by, income, and certain parts of the city/county they live in.

[-] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago

Acting like that's specific to any group of people it's laughable.

It's a class war. Don't let them convince you it's a race war.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's still gender, age, political affiliation, class/income level, and the big one, religion, for us to fight, separate, and subjugate over. We don't need eye or hair color, too.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

I feel I have to point out here that most white people aren't racist, and don't give a shit about skin color.

I know this comment will be down voted yo hell because of course all white people are evil racist bastards, and people of color never do anything wrong, but still...

This post feels ever so slightly racist. Is racism not racism anymore if white people are the target? I was always taught to just be nice to everybody and that becoming your enemy doesn't defeat your enemy.

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[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

Start leaving my house unlocked again?

I mean, seriously, ragebaiting in such a stoopid way like this deserves all the ~~flaming~~ trolling that comes your way.

btw I’m not from the US so my “joke” wouldn’t work where I live anyway.

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[-] falynns@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Literally already happened a dozen times. Some power hungry piece of shit is already trying to convince his (it's always a man) neighbors them down-the-block Whites are going to kill them unless they donate to the "Nah I'm a good one" fund. You can't leave too many White people alone. Just look at the Hamptons. Or the US South. Or US history in any window of time.

[-] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

All the racism in the world will be concentrated onto the left-handed, gingers, and the Welsh.

The kind of future Lovecraft would want.

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