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..When you're walking through the supermarket?

Like this all could be over in a few years? Our life of quiet convenience and ease, not having to fight or hunt for food. Lives not in constant danger.

And how will we look back on these times? They are good times. Not always, not for everyone, but for most of us. We will look back and remember people quietly going about their business, selecting which juice to buy, contemplating recipes.

I have no idea how bad things will get, or even if entire economies are going to collapse and bring Venezuela level suffering to everyone. But they might.. And that thought played on my mind when I visited the supermarket to buy garlic salt and eco-friendly sandwich bags.

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[–] apes_on_parade@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I generally feel that way a lot of the time... though not as much at the supermarket, moreso when I am enjoying nature, believing so many of these species I enjoy observing will suffer a miserable and fearful extinction

[–] luthis 2 points 1 year ago

I am lucky to live somewhere that isn't rapidly destroying nature everywhere and has pretty strong conservation laws. I cannot comprehend what's happening in the Amazon

[–] monkic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I feel the same way too! I feel like this desperate need to just experience, document the nature around me before it disappears. Kinda like the vibe of the game SEASON: A letter to the future, I guess.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dude! I’ve done this. It’s surreal. Like dissociative disorder. It’s like everyone else is an NPC, and they have no idea the dragon’s headed this way. The only way I get through it is by pretending they’re thinking just like me and we’re all keeping our heads down so we don’t panic.

[–] luthis 2 points 1 year ago

I feel bad for the NPCs, they are only trying to live their lives just like me. How tf is slightly overweight mum over there going to handle the collapse with her two then young teens? And grandpa over there will live to see the start of the fall and know it's all over for his grandkids. I could be up against soccer dad over there for the last food in the dairy. Maybe I really should be putting all my effort towards self sustaining.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] luthis 1 points 1 year ago

Good read. Worrying though..

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think about it a bit longer... all those dreadful hours working shitty jobs to afford this surplus in a supermarket? Maybe not worth it.

Just imaging walking down the line in a nice greenhouse or vertical-farm full of self-grown fresh vegetables instead in the future :)

[–] monkic@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I feel this even more strongly when I scroll through my local/friend group chats and social media (I have to maintain my Instagram page for work). Everyone is so preoccupied with such trivial things in the grand scheme of things, living blissfully in ignorance and focusing all their time and attention and effort on ... what exactly? And I know that if I try to talk to these people about climate change, about all the food and water and economic difficulties that will be hitting us soon, they will just dismiss me and I will lose their respect. It's so scary and sad.

[–] FrostBolt@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I've had this same thought, OP. Lately I've been extra thankful for fresh fruits and veggies, because I'm sure a lot of crops are going to have a hard time going forward -- already have in some cases.

[–] phikshun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I feel grateful. I mean, what a time to be alive. We truely had everything.

Think about how future historians will write about this period of human existence. I mean, they won't of course, having been drowned or simply spontaneous combusted. But what an incredible period of history.

I think it's the constant gaslighting by society and the media is what makes people think they're crazy. Ignore it. Get some popcorn (while it exists). The best part is almost about to start.

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