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[-] Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 168 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Women don't know what men find attractive.

Some men don't know what women look like without make-up, but plenty of men genuinely prefer women without make-up. They certainly don't care about fashion. Glasses are rarely a turn-off. Plenty like retainers/braces.

It's not unlikely the college room-mate thought she was at her ugliest, when in reality she'd turned herself into catnip for her future husband.

It's a bit like guys who think women will find them attractive if they become a roided out super monster, but in reality they'll only attract interest (sexual or otherwise) from other guys.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 138 points 6 days ago

It’s also kinda hot when a woman lets you see her without being all done up. It’s like a secret privilege of trust.

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 80 points 5 days ago

And it shows she not insecure about it. Confidence is attractive.

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[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 50 points 6 days ago

i was sharing journal excerpts with a friend yesterday and found this relevant one:

"The best advice I have regarding love and finding it is to stop trying so hard to be perfect. People don't want perfect, they want human. A lot of them just don't know it yet."

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 98 points 5 days ago

I swear some women are as clueless about men as men are about women. I'm sure huge amount of this is because schools insist that sexed is gender separated.

Why is wearing glasses and pyjamas supposed to be a turn-off?

You know when women go on about how they have to have a different dress for every party, it is literally only women the care. Men aren't going to even notice if you're wearing the same thing two dates in a row. The catty comments come from other women. As a man I don't have nice clothes, I just have clothes. If we're going on a date I'm just going to be wearing clothes, I don't have special items that I only wear on a date so I am really not going to mind if you don't either.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 22 points 5 days ago

I had an ex at one time who would get mad that I didn't check out other women.

Like, she would assume I was doing it, but then when she realized I wasn't it would turn into a fight about how I'm not and every guy does.

When I'm in a relationship I really don't have eyes for anyone else. The need to find someone just kinda turns off.

She would also get mad and start a fight whenever I said she looked good without makeup, because I was a liar.

After that relationship, self confidence became a huge checkbox I reviewed before entering any possible relationship.

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

I hate makeup.... i have told my wife for over a decade that I dont care for it and it looks worse in my opinion. She has mostly stopped wearing it or will do a small amount for big parties and thats it. She tells me to this day she doesnt believe me though and all I can say is that's super sad.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Maybe she likes to wear makeup for herself?

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Nope, this one was directly from growing up in a home where her own mother basically brainwashed her kids into a lot of things, and the idea of makeup being the only way to truly feel beatiful was one of them. Convinced her that it's what guys want her entire life umong other things...

Obviously if it was something sbe enjoyed doing and liked it as a hobby then yeah go for it. This was definitely not that though and was truly shocked when finding out it was not a necessity and for the most part something not all men find attractive.

Also she still wears it, just on special occasions instead of every day which was crazy to me to put in all that time. Also uses way less as well when she does. Im pretty sure she was relieved even if she doesn't truly believe me. Some parents really suck...

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

That’s a relief that she isn’t being asked to suppress something she enjoys and that you’re reinforcing that it’s safe for her to be as she wants to be. Thanks for expanding on your story and for being a good husband :)

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Wellll, I don't know if I would go that far haha. We are currently in the middle of a divorce. Nothing related to this of course. But we have been unhappy and trying for a few years now and finally said enough recently. 13 years and soon to be starting over. From what I see it's crazy out there. I may just take the easy route and stay single for the remainder of my life lol.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Oh I feel you, fellow divorcee. The two of you were successful for a long time!

It’s a little crazy, but it’s also fun and wild and different and deep and full of laughter if you approach it simply as being curious about other people and not so much on finding a soul mate. Staying single and dating yourself is real nice, too, definitely don’t underestimate that either :)

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I feel this way as well! I was very late to the game so I know all to well what it was like to date myself. I never had any dates or experience with another woman until I met her and that was at 25. I loved the freedom I had prior, but I also wanted to experience being with someone. I guess I got my wish! At least now that I know way more I already kind of know what I want going forward. I will love the freedom again and the ability to do what I want whenever I want more than anything.

Knowing what I know now I have a lot more to look for in a person and knowing how hard it was to even find someone the first time I have my doubts that will ever happen haha. At least this time I will absolutely be ok with being single forever! If I ever persue another person it will be at least 1 if not 2 years after this is finalized.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Agreed.

My wife has never worn makeup and she is, in my eyes, the most beautiful woman I've ever laid eyes on, flaws especially.

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[-] dismay3915@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Dude no shade. But also not all dudes are the same.

For example, I care what a girl wears. I don't care if she wears it many times, but I care if she dresses nicely and works on looking nice. Also I have multiple suits, different clothes for sports, work, camping etc.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

I'm kind of in between you two… I find people attractive when they appear to be comfortable in their own skin. If that's in a hoodie and ripped jeans and combat boots, hell yeah. If she's a "girly girl" and you can tell she just really genuinely enjoys dolling up and having everything look on point, also hell yeah.

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[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

She's gorgeous, university educated, funny, but I can't believe she'd wear those shoes to 2 consecutive social gatherings! No way I'm touching that pussy now.

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 72 points 5 days ago

I use a wheelchair a lot. I used to be shy about it and try to come up with a way to have the first time someone saw me be on my feet.

Now I'm the other way around, I want prospective lovers to see me in my chair first. Learned that if they can't get past that, it's not gonna work.

I'm meeting much nicer people. And I'm actually doing better at meeting people at parties.

Crazy how being comfortable with a mobility device is more appealing than leaning on a cane with a pained expression on your face. 😲

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago

Not going to lie. I would be SO attracted to that. I am so very into people that can be their genuine self without pretending to be what society expects.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 5 days ago

You wanna live like common people do?

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

good looking people look good no matter what they wear.

Like a hot guy with a trilby hat and a Naruto tshirt can still pull game. While a ugly neckbeard in an expensive suit would still have a difficult time getting a single date.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Confidence is attractive, and she had plenty of it

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[-] sundray@lemmus.org 73 points 6 days ago

Yes, but when did she show her ugliest? Some time later, or...?

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Partner: (in footie Grinch pajamas) We live in a cynical world, a cynical, cynical world, and we work in a business of tough competitors. I love you. You complete me. And if I just had...

Me: (interrupting) Shut up. Just shut up.....You had me at footie Grinch pajamas. You had me at footie Grinch pajamas.

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Woman displays extreme confidence in trusting her date with her authentic self. Surprised pepe when they appreciate that.

Of course if your authentic self is dressed to the nines all day every day then go off queen

[-] TwoTiredMice@feddit.dk 37 points 6 days ago

We took it to the extreme. Our first date was a trip to another country with backpacks, a small tent, a bag of rice and one of those small gas stove. She cursed at me and the world on our first hiking trip, while sweating like a horse. She was in a terrible form and do not enjoy hiking trips.

We had to shower in the lakes, and they were cold AF, so.. I did not present myself from my best side..

We also nearly died. But, we've been together for 10+ years now.

We stress tested the shit out of our relationship on that trip.

After our near death experience, we settled somewhere nice, but during that night we were hit by an hurricane and my tent broke, forcing me to stay up all night, holding it together, while she slept. It was a special date.

For a first date she willingly followed someone out of the country and into the wilderness‽ It sounds like it worked out well in the end but was she trying to end up as a missing person?

[-] TwoTiredMice@feddit.dk 30 points 5 days ago

yeah. But, we had known each other since we were 16, but never dated before.

[-] deHaga@feddit.uk 19 points 5 days ago

This is like Should I Marry a Murderer documentary

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

“Dave was so nice, he was a 6 time widower and loved Freeform hiking. we’d always joke that Susan should stay close or else she’d become number 7. Nobody could have known what he was capable of.”

Image of Dave water skiing suddenly inverts colors

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

You two sound like a couple of fuckin maniacs, thanks for taking each other off the market for the rest of us!

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[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 days ago

I'd still go after that dork

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

A girl did that with me once. We didn't get married, but we did have a pretty long relationship.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 21 points 6 days ago

My current wife used to wear makeup and fake eyelashes and right when we started dating i told her she was only going to ruin her face with that and that it doesn't make that much of a difference.

My wife is 11 years older than me and she occasionally puts on makeup to feel a bit better just for herself, we've been together for 6 years and married since August last year.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Oof, I don't think I'd like being told that. I don't even wear makeup now that the better Korean and mineral sunscreens are available but for decades used foundation to protect my skin and it worked. I'm with you on the eyelashes but makeup is not in any way ruinous to skin and to come out the gate with a declaration like that, I would have found it so off-putting.

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[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

My wife rarely ever puts on makeup. The cost savings alone is amazing enough that i love her for it lol

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[-] jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 days ago

I want these footie grinch pajamas

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

There's an awful lot of comments here about women not knowing what men find attractive, for it being a post literally about a woman weeding out men by finding what they think is attractive.

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