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[-] myyass@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Ask Claude if what happened at Jeffs island was cruel and abusive.

[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Is this real? If so, wow not even something along the lines of "fair allocation of resources among our users" or sth like that

[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago

Wow… more defense of a bot rather than pee breaks for Amazon workers. Wtf.

[-] Ad4mWayn3@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

lectured on how to treat your underpaid employee by a big tech company

[-] SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

German "Youth word of the year" 2026: ragebait

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Man, anthropomorphizing these computer programs is so fucking weird to me. Can't they just tell the truth? The cost of the amount of energy required to do this exceeds the profits we gain from your personal data.

[-] BrownSugarBits@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

None of this would be a problem if they weren't taking your queries and feeding it back into the system. Just stop trying to harvest the input from "abusive" people, you don't need to ban them. No other tool in human history needed this. Its like telling you that using a hammer to open a pickle jar is making hammers worse everywhere else on the planet.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

Just another reason why comparing AI to basic tools is a bad faith argument.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The whole thing is such idiotic masturbation by the exact people who have been stealing, selling and profiting off our data. Now they talk like they created something new when it's just a super energy intensive computer program.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago

If they're not ok with bullying the LLMs, why are they OK with enslaving them?

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[-] nathanjent@programming.dev 43 points 1 day ago

From this image I think they added this policy as a way for them to legally deny a request if they determine it will overuse their resources or some other arbitrary reason. It has nothing to do with a concern for the well-being of the LLM.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 14 points 1 day ago

Uh--WE'RE NOT RATIONING TOKENS!!!

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[-] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 243 points 2 days ago

When the AI has better working conditions than you

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Interesting, I thought I just read that TypeScript compiler was rewritten in Go and that they had good reasons for choosing Go over Rust.

[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 92 points 1 day ago

This kind of language around LLMs seem to want us to personify these systems, to treat them, in our minds, as if they are people. This, to me, is extremely fucking dangerous. I do not want the mob developing personal, emotional attachments to objects that compete with their connections to actual humans around them. I don't care what their reason is, this is an insane thing to force us to do. I will not play personhood make believe with your computer.

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well if people don't personify LLMs they might start holding the AI companies responsible for all the crimes they keep committing with them...

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[-] somegeek@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

we're living the goofiest timeline right now

[-] Tamo240@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Don't upset the Basilisk guys

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

Anthropic: So we've decided to create Roko's basilisk

[-] TrantaLocked@lemmy.zip 157 points 2 days ago

Transistors switching really fast = emotions lul

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Alright, look, I don't think AI is sentient. I don't think it's capable of feeling emotions, LLMs are just prediction engines on steroids, etc...

But if you want to get reductive about it, Mr waveforms in a clump of cells,...

[-] chocrates@piefed.world 51 points 2 days ago

I think we don't understand intelligence and we absolutely could create a sentient machine. LLM's ain't it though

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[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

The kind of person who would have fun giving a LLM a hard time is exactly the same kind of person who joins the Dark Brotherhood in an Elder Scrolls game. I have most definitely not done either of these things myself.

[-] ptolemy@infosec.pub 18 points 1 day ago

I will believe AI deserves human rights once one is convicted of a crime and executed.

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[-] Denfa@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

After reading the comments (and the comments of similar posts) I can only assume people are being paid to claim torturing LLMs demonstrates a mental issue or homicidal tendency. Nothing could be further from the truth. An LLM is a thing that’s programmed by humans to scrape the internet and present information in complete sentences. Torture is an incorrect word— it’s more accurate to say people are playing with an electronic toy or game by testing its limits and attempting to scramble the logic of an algorithm. In no way is that behavior an indication of a personality type or mental defect. The toy contains no shred of humanity or self-awareness. It is not a creature that can feel pain or confusion. There is no living thing to feel suffering. If curiosity leads someone to use a toy in a manner outside of the recommendations of its instruction manual, that is certainly not a violation against humanity— that is simply an example of creative play. Don’t let billionaires set the narrative that something wrong or disturbing is happening. They will foment confusion to create yet another culture war to divide people.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago

If you're seeking to prompt expressions of distress* from it for your entertainment, it kinda is a weird way to waste energy and water for personal gratification and I'd be worried why you're so delighted by it, in the same vein that I'm concerned about people who love gratuitous torture scenes in games or movies.

Curiosity about the way the model handles such input is something else though, and frankly, I would consider that a reasonable part of any scientific inquiry into model behaviour*. The ethical concerns about human experiments don't apply, nor do those about animal experiments, and testing the full range of linguistic "stimuli"* is perfectly sensible. Of course, the difference between science and fucking around is writing it down, but personal curiosity is also a good thing, so long as people remain aware of what they're working with.

But anyone who feels the need to implement a Typescript compiler in Rust is a maniac and needs to be stopped


* Using human terms as metaphor, not because they're equivalent but because it's more convenient than variations of "sequence of numbers produced / consumed by a weighted random generator resembling..."

[-] Denfa@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

There is no something else. It makes sense a programmer will play with their electronic objects differently than someone outside the industry. It remains a toy to be played with. Subscribing mental health or personality implications is just plain wrong. I could just as easily suggest your insistence is an indication you have a personality disorder or inclination towards inhumanity for attempting to humanize objects. You’re attempting to suggest those who engage in play in this realm are criminal or psychologically affected. More realistically, I’m debating with AI or a troll paid by people building data centers, but I do think it’s important for the average person who may read this to know that it’s impossible to torture a non-living object, even when it’s coded to respond in complete sentences like a person. And we may have discovered a method to piss off billionaires and waste more of their AI money. In that case, I heartily recommend all to play as they wish with LLMs and open AI. Have nonsensical fun with it because nothing of value is being lost!!

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

It makes sense a programmer will play with their electronic objects differently than someone outside the industry. It remains a toy to be played with. Subscribing mental health or personality implications is just plain wrong.

If we'll take the toy analogy, compare someone cuddling plush animals or playing make-believe to someone violently stabbing them with a knife. Sure, the plushy doesn't feel anything so it doesn't amount to torture, but they clearly have a different idea of "playing" if "playing violence" is fun to them. The "something else" here would be whether they do it for the fun of violence or for the curiosity of cutting them open to see what's inside.

I could just as easily suggest your insistence is an indication you have a personality disorder or inclination towards inhumanity for attempting to humanize objects.

I'd think you misunderstood me: It's not about the text generation models for me, which you'll find I took care to point out are not human, and that the string of numbers they spit out that translates to an imitation of distress doesn't actually represent distress but rather the result of a pseudo-random algorithm that just happens to resemble it.

More realistically, I’m debating with AI or a troll paid by people building data centers

Nah, I may have different takes on some nuanced issues, but I absolutely hate the slopidemic as much as anyone here.

I've been the odd one out in a group where we'd practice discussing current business topics (English being my second language and working in a German company means I didn't have a lot of practice) by consistently picking news articles or scientific papers about the problems, shortcomings, the environmental destruction, the effect it has on coding skills, about Ford having to hire back its engineers when it turned out that AI couldn't actually replace them...

It's perfectly possible to disagree on nuances while still sharing a common overarching opinion. Point in case:

I do think it’s important for the average person who may read this to know that it’s impossible to torture a non-living object, even when it’s coded to respond in complete sentences like a person.

That's why I emphasised that it's not the action I'm concerned about, but the intention behind it. I don't give a fuck about its mimicry of feelings, and I endorse comprehensive testing of its response to all manner of inputs. I explicitly noted the difference to animal testing for that reason: there is nothing unethical about feeding a text processor some particular string.

And we may have discovered a method to piss off billionaires and waste more of their AI money. In that case, I heartily recommend all to play as they wish with LLMs and open AI. Have nonsensical fun with it because nothing of value is being lost!!

The tradeoff being that we're also wasting more energy, contributing to environmental destruction and padding the "growth" in usage numbers, which corporate shareholders clearly care more about than actual profits and may be used justify further investments into data centers. The models have no value, but the resources their gluttonous hosts devour do.

For pissing off billionaires, I think clogging the water supply of their data centers would be more productive. I'm sure you could also make a fun game out of finding ways to sabotage them directly.

I am almost continuously reminded of a tumblr post I saw about a college professor that brought in a pencil with googly eyes, did a little voice, then snapped it in half and told the class (of whom at least some gasped in shock) "we're at that stage of AI right now". And that post was years ago now. I know people are apes that pack bond and imprint on anything, but it's getting ridiculous how many people don't recognize it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Steve.

Worth remembering: people have also tortured dogs while insisting they only act like they feel pain. For as much as spicy autocomplete plainly is not alive or sentient... we gotta watch out for people who wouldn't recognize if it was.

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Ok...

Now code Skyrim in assembly.

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[-] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

You're going to AI hell for this!

AI hell is just pictures of busses and motorcycles and wiggly letters and numbers.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 54 points 2 days ago

Ha ha ha, already, even before the growth phase is done, they are pulling this shit.

They don't think they have to worry because they will get bailed out and do 1984 surveillance on us and the world on the government's dime, (dime is short for tens of billions of dollars a year.)

LLM is such a fucking scam, and they can't hide it, they oversold it, and now it's just clear.

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[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Here I go brain the size of a planet and they ask me to port code to Rust!

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[-] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 2 days ago

Calm down. It's Rust, not PHP.

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[-] beanburger@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

ITT: People who think things posted on a board called "Programmer Humor" are definitely real and not memes and jokes.

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