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Wait, like...all mods? Even the multiplayer mod? how the hell does that even work?
I don't know what the other user is talking about it being a "separate game." It is heavily data-focused though. It's mostly C# code. As long as that doesn't make calls to Unity functions, it's fine, but also I'm certain they, and other mods, have. However, you can still handle this, similar to how WINE can run Windows applications without running Windows. You have a compatibility layer that routes all the calls that would have gone to Unity to your own systems that behave as close to identically as possible. If you make a call to "UnityEngine.Vector3", for example, you just create your own "UnityEngine.Vector3" that replicates the functionality.
If I recall correctly, very little of rimworld actually uses unity functionality. It's just a "seperate" game viewed through unity
That would explain why it's one of the few unity games that does not try to burn a hole into my laptop! Was always wondering how they achieved that. Usually when I see that a game uses unity, I can already guess that it won't run well on my machine
interesting! for me that's always the sign of unreal engine - fans set to max, and get prepare for input lag lol
I hardly play games that use the unreal engine, but I'd expect that to be similar, especially as unreal engine is usually used for more graphics intensive 3D games.
The thing that annoys me about unity, is that it performs like ass even for games that should easily run on an iGPU, like RimWorld levels of graphic. I'm not saying their graphics are bad, it has its own style and I like it, but 2D games should definitely be able to run on an integrated graphics card, and there are a lot of games using unity that don't. Either the engine is shitty, or it's making it too easy to create unoptimized games
unreal engine is usually used for more graphics intensive 3D games.
yeah and it's optimized for shit. if you want a AAA gorgeous shooter, go unreal, otherwise, I dunno why anyone uses the fuckin thing. it's a lot more work to beat unreal into a 2d app or rts than unity requires.
but hey, fuck unity too lol, they fucked around with developers and found out, glad to see rimworld leaving; I'm becoming a big fan of godot, the engine just springs open damned near instantly.
Why would they write a custom engine that also breaks mods? It shouldn't be surprising that they wrote it so mods keep working.
I mean, it seems simple - just make the new engine compatible with the old mods....
but changing engines is hard work. building your own engine is exceptionally harder. lots of things to break.
Many of their previous updates on the unity engine broke mods - for something as fundamentally massive as changing the entire game engine, it's an incredible achievement to have done so while preserving the functionality of the tens of thousands of 3rd party scripts.
3rd party mods are often not supported and may rely on quirky unity behavior. I don't know how much of unity they used but that sounds very impressive to me that they managed to keep mods working as supposed to all mods needing a minor update.
Way to show how it is done. If only Notch could have updated MC just fucking once without breaking every mod everytime.
IIRC, many, maybe most, Rimworld updates broke mods too. This one hasn't though. That's because this one seems to essentially just be a compatibility layer or something. What they must have done is routed all calls to Unity things to their own engine's alternative. At least that's my educated guess, because there's no other reasonable way this could work.
This is still amazing. I'm not diminishing that. It isn't changing the way the game functions though. It's just changing how it functions.
Designing stable interfaces is hard, they're just a smol bean $4.5T corporation.
I really cannot comprehend how Minecraft collected such a mod base while also being this unbearable.
So many players just end up playing old versions because mod developers cannot reliably keep up with this nonsense. The last version to have decent mod support is probably 1.21.1, and there are so many mods dead after 1.7.10, 1.6.4, or even earlier.
Some of the mods, like Better than Wolves, have it literally in their name.
I developed a mod until a year or so ago. Updates just come out too fast for it to be worth my time. If I want to fix one bug I have to apply it to 5 different game versions
It's pretty simple: Notch was never a great coder and the game never had any mod support or APIs. He didn't support the idea of mødding the game at all.
Modders literally have to decompile and reverse engineer most of the game to add mods. Only last year did they remove obfuscation so the community didn't have to make up their own naming for everything.
In 2019, not last year. In 2019 they started releasing deobfuscation mappings so that any modder can get the deobfuscated code if they want by applying the mappings. That was the big change. Last year they stopped obfuscating the code in the first place, but that didn't change anything, just removed a simple step to modding of not having to use their mappings anymore.
just removed a simple step to modding of not having to use their mappings anymore.
There's an argument to be made that this step presumably required an update every version, one that was presumably offloaded to the modloader, which might also become more significant when you consider all the drama related to Forge being bloated with too much stuff packed into it.
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I passed on rimworld because I didn't want to get the DLCs and I felt like the game would need them.
I had the DLC's bought for me but I still just play the original unless I play mp/co-op.
I've gotten some good mileage out of it with no DLCs, just wish it had layers like Dwarf Fortress, doesn't even have to be as many but it's weird that you can't at least build vertically for a few levels. I believe it's possible to pirate the DLCs as well, but I don't really know enough about pirating software safely to try that. I'm certainly not paying another $60 to get them.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they know levels would have been nice because they added them (with strong limitations). They added bunkers and caves that are below ground and have multiple layers. You can freely build them, or even freely travel through them (it acts like a new map), but they exist. Hopefully the next game they're working on has levels, if it's a colony manager, because it adds a lot more variety to how you can build things.
Rimworld is literally one of the easiest games to pirate, especially for how expensive it is.
It's just a directory, and it's only a couple hundred megabytes compressed.
And despite all that, I still bought it in the end. All of it. It's just that good.
And here I am, a living Rimworld commercial. And all because I pirated something.
I pirated the whole kitten kaboodle. After playing an amount of hours that I don't like admitting to, I then bought the whole kitten kaboodle. I've since played an additional amount of hours I don't like admitting to.
I have a gaming PC that could play anything, yet I play a game with duplo block people.
It's just that good. 😗👌
After playing an amount of hours that I don’t like admitting to
Fess up you coward! Lemmy wants to see your shame!
And this is only the playtime after I switched to the steam version (much easier mod management) - I'm glad I can't know how many hours I spent in the DRM-free version...
(to save anyone doing the math, that's 8 hours a day for 344 days. Yep.)
Kit and caboodle
A kit - is set of objects, as in a toolkit, or what a soldier would put in his kit-bag.
A caboodle (or boodle) - is an archaic term meaning group or collection, usually of people.
Oh. Okay. I see.
I'm going to try and save face by saying I was ACTUALLY talking about the drag queen, Kitten Kaboodle.
Yep.
I choose to believe you
A lot of people are recommending Ideology specifically here, and while that would also be my own recommendation, I feel like I need to throw in a caveat.
Ideology is an entirely hit-or-miss DLC, because the entire point of most of it is giving your colony various limitations for roleplaying purposes. If you don't care about roleplaying then it's probably one of the last DLC you'd want.
Though it does come with the advantage of being the cheapest DLC.
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I'll echo everyone else in that you don't need them but also go further and say don't get any of them to start. The learning curve is a little steep and a vanilla play to start is a good idea. Then you can pick up some quality of life mods and whatever else floats your boat. The game is disgustingly customizable. You can get nuclear power and missiles, dropships, robots, custom furniture armor and weaponry, genetically engineered catgirls, literally anything. It's infinitely replayable with mods alone.
It does not need the DLCs. I have them and I play vanilla when I play
It really doesn't and it's pretty fun and cheap. There are so many mods, like literally thousands. I personally have about 30-35 installed.
The only "must have" one is ideology. But even then you don't need it and could replace it with about 5 mods.
IDK, I can't imagine navigating Ideology without already being pretty familiar with the base game. Royalty might be okay in that it's the most basic of the DLCs? But if you don't already know about how to manage moods or set up a freezer, you're going to have a really frustrating time with memes like raider (let alone tree connection or transhumanists).
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