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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

Maybe the terraforming plans I've heard exist for mars, where they redirect asteroids with the needed materials to crash into it over thousands of years, would work, although they would have to be real careful not to miss if it's the Earth's moon instead

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago
[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

Well that sounds like a much more practical solution

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago
[-] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago

humans were not made to live in the harshness of space. Perhaps first create really fantastic robots, and let them do the hard work. Or even better: invest more in saving Earth.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

The whole reason humans spread all across the globe is due to our ability to shape our environment to our needs.

[-] xav@programming.dev 6 points 14 hours ago

Currently we are destroying a formerly perfect environment.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago

That formerly perfect environment could not support the current human population. And I'm not saying we're doing a good job in terms of long term planning here. I'm merely pointing out that we have the ability to shape our environment, and that's what allowed for our civilization to exist in the first place.

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 4 points 20 hours ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

I love that short clip.

[-] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Do we shape our environment to our needs?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

We very obviously do, most of the human population lives in cities and wouldn't make it through a single week in the wild.

[-] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I see, yes I see where you are coming from. On the other hand, I was thinking of climate change, plastic in the oceans, PFAS and so on. Human products that are damaging the ecosystem around us and that will mostly hit humanity in the back of its neck in the near future. So we DO shape our environment- but not to our ACTUAL needs.

[-] myszka@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

That's just a contradiction of our current mode of production. The negative effect is sure there, but it's outweighed by the positive outcomes. This gigantic mechanized monolithic production system that turns the whole humanity into one big voracious machine is what eventually will allow us to fully decentralise the way we produce things while keeping the automation and thus avoid the destruction we've been causing for so long.

Think of this: you don't need packaging if you consume in the same place where you produce. You can also much more easily recycle used materials if you don't need them to travel for thousands miles and can instead use them right where you are. If you use local small and natural sources of energy instead of burning millions of tons of coal, you also don't pollute the enviranment as much. All of this will only be possible thanks to this destructive phase we're currently in. So ultimately we do cater our actual needs - somewhat contradictory at times, but still.

[-] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

That’s a lot of wishful thinking to digest ;-). There’s zero evidence to support this vision , and human egoism (wars, revenue-focus, …) seem to be IMHO completely ignored. I witnessed these type of predictions in the 70s, 90s, 10s… they never materialized.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

Sure, we create a lot of problems in our shaping of the environment, and we tend to prioritize short term needs over long term ones.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

A century. How about we start small and see where it goes before we make plans for the centennial celebration? There's water asteroids, potentially more water on the moon to be found ...

I find it weird to dismiss the idea just because in a century the water may run out, assuming a population of 1 million (!!)

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

For sure, there could be lots of solutions here, and we really don't know much about what's under the surface either. I just thought it was interesting how much water you need for a million people to live.

[-] ManfredMumpitz@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago
[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago
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