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[-] itsBlorpinTime@feddit.online 13 points 1 day ago

Legally in most parts it's considered battery, which is worse.

[-] expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the state of IL, to even threaten is considered assault. Meaning, you can't say, "I'm about to hit you." In many other states, assault is any impediment of one's volition. Any use of force is battery, which is why the two are often paired together, and you can get charged with assault and battery.

[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, assault can be as much as only threatening to hit someone.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago

This meme, while correct, demonstrates a misunderstanding of the argument.

"A man is not allowed to strike a woman, not even in self defense." We live in a society where some version of this is drilled into every male child's brain from a young age.

Nobody making this argument in good faith is gleefully responding to "equal rights for women" with "so I get to hit women", because the fuckheads who want to hit women aren't waiting for an excuse and are not mentally healthy.

Those who are making this argument in good faith could do with much better phrasing though. I prefer "Equal rights should include equal privilege." If self defense against a female asaultant is their only concern, then it sounds like they just want to hit women. There are other issues that can and should be addressed, like a man not being able to pick up their own child or nibling from school without dirty looks or potentially having the cops called on him.

Don't get me wrong, I understand perfectly well that in terms of privilege inequality, women have it worse. Women aren't taken seriously by their doctors, or by the law, or in most contexts really. Women get paid less to do the same work. If a woman pursues her dreams instead of getting married and having kids, that's sad. Women should not have to deal with any of this bullshit!

What I don't know is how to wrap this up with a concise tldr without sounding like a whiny moid.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

You should always defend yourself with the minimum necessary force.

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This. But it was drilled into me by my father to never ever under any circumstance to hit a woman. And I never have, even when she sexually assaulted me. It would have been justifiable for me to hit her to get her off of me, but I know deep in my being that she would have called the cops and I would have gone to jail for battery, and she would not have had to answer for the assault at all. I still don't really know what I should have done in that situation, but I do know that I should have not stayed married to her.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Sending warm and positive thoughts your way, you didn't deserve that. Hopefully you're far away from her now.

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you so much. I am safe now, as far away from her as I can be.

You have a point; there shouldn't be any excuse for assaulting somebody. The patriarchal standards hurt us all and make the world less safe.

Also, you're not a "moid." Fuck that word

[-] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Patriarchy is just king harem culture or horse herd dynamics applied to a society that no longer fits that dynamic.

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[-] jtrek@startrek.website 101 points 2 days ago

I remember when I was a toddler, the neighbor toddler girl hit me in the face with her shoe. When I hit her back, I got in a lot of trouble and was told not to hit girls.

Would have been a lot more sensible if they said "no one should be hitting each other"

[-] Malica@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

Yes. I'm sorry that happened to you, it's not fair.

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[-] Hiplobbe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You can hit the gritty though?

[-] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

The correct question is: "So you're fine getting drafted?"

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

The correct question is: “So you’re fine getting drafted?”

No one should be drafted.

It works both ways, don't worry.

[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 day ago
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