A correction is something different than a burst. What do you think is the future there?
There's been a lot of bounces where the US stock market "lost" trillions then came back to its original point and more, see the election and March of 2025 and 2026
Could mean something could mean nothing, only time will really tell
A lot of people in the comments conflating "AI bubble burst" with "AI has disappeared completely", and saying it's not happening because AI still exists there.
When the dot com bust happened, the internet didn't just disappear overnight, it just shrunk into something more reasonable. I feel like this is the same.
Same vibe as "if global warming is real how come it was cold at my house this morning?"
AI/LLMs will still be around, they just wont be the end all be all some people have been hyping it as
Yeah, to me it kinda seems inevitable that the AI bubble will pop. Because AI companies are having such a hard time making a profit selling their AI. The tech that they developed will still exist, and self-hosted models will definitely still exist. But the glut of AI datacentres and the price gouging on RAM and GPUs that they cause, cannot possibly last indefinitely.
Oh please let me be able to afford to upgrade my PC in the next 2 years
The internet now is bigger than the internet pre dot com burst, though, right?
Same thing will happen with the AI bust.
Oh god.
But, in the same vein, things will grow that are actually useful. Nobody needs AI injected into every aspect of daily life like it is now, but there will be things we look bark on in 20 years wondering how we lived without it, I'm sure.
And they're still be people, just like now, who long for those days when life was simpler and less stressful and we were living closer with nature and ourselves rather than through a machine entity.
I mean, this isn’t true from my perspective. All the Chinese LLM labs are still developing full steam ahead. Model/architectures are getting updated so quickly it’s a meme amongst inference framework devs, because they can’t even support one model before the next one is already out.
…They’ve always been thrifty, though. The difference is they don’t need a trillion dollar bubble to fund their modest, more sustainable dev/inference costs.
China has been taking steps to keep it's AI industry in check. They'll be fine. Their bubble pop is essentially a market adjustment. We all just get bent out of shape because of how big these numbers have gotten over the last few decades. The important thing is that the Chinese government took steps to protect it's other sectors which is why we likely saw their bubble pop before ours.
It's less that they protect companies, and more that they don't care when they end.
That protects the industry.
Compared to America where specific companies lobby to limit competition, and end up just charging more for shitty products.
It's pretty much why we keep losing.
Because if the big companies never end, they buy up everyone else. Too big to fail means it's too big to even exist.
What? Their real estate is popping too. Could you be more specific as to what "steps to protect its other sectors" means?
I can't.
I believe what I said, but I'm not following the Chinese market in any serious way. One of my comment edits was to disclose that but I choose the more basic statement. I'm fully willing to be wrong when presented with data. I felt that removing my own hedge allowed comments like yours to more directly challenge the statement.
I'm in the middle of studying for a mid term. I don't want to use the energy to dig into it. I got my stance mostly from articles I've read in passing on how they have regulated their AI market to protect workers and manage circular investing. It could easily have been propaganda.
Refreshingly honest social media comment!
Good luck on your mid term. no /s
They don’t have a handful of companies financing each other in a giant game of venture-capital-human centipede that will topple the entire market when it goes belly up.
their real estates have been "popping" for several years now. i still remember finance bros making videos titled "is china going to collapse in 30 days??!?!!?" a couple of years ago.
in reality it's just the government managing risk and taper speculation in the real estate market.
No new news. Deepseek is still raising billions in funding rounds.
This is how they win: everyone's gonna pop, but their iron fist over the banks will prevent an absolute bust.
We haven't learned from fanny-mae and we're gonna get soundly fucked.
We learned, we put mechanisms in place. We got people in power that actually wants this to happen so they steal even more wealth from us.
I think there should be no bailouts.
Boy, it seem's China's beating the USA at all aspects of AI.
/rimshot
You joke, but there’s a few communities on Lemmy that REALLY love China.
I'm aware. Given the current state of the USA, I understand the willingness to overlook China's imperfections.
At a certain point, the old tribalistic feuding needs to give way to responsible globalized stewardship of the planets finite resources. To be civilized it's to be scientific; to be scientific requires accepting certain realities about our world.
/doubt
And now everything will go back to normal and people in China will stop using AI.
Right?
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