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transcription: the "(character) is homophobic?" trend cracks me up because when i was 15 i tried to tell my mom i was lesbian by saying "mom.... i dont like guys...." and she just said "AMEN" assuming i was just being misandrist and did and illegal u-turn to get to a tamale shop before i could reply

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[-] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

Was OOP's mom not craving tamales until OOP dropped the anti-boy news? Would OOP's mom not have made an illegal u-turn if OOP had sat quietly as a well-behaved passenger?

[-] Edges@lemmy.zip 108 points 3 days ago

Its actually legal to u-turn anywhere if its for tamales

[-] sober_monk@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

Also, the speed limit doesn't apply if Free Bird is playing.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago
[-] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago

(fyi, it's Ride of the Valkyries, but your point stands)

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Oh of course you are correct. I guess it's because they're on flying horses....

[-] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

Most likely!

If you are getting a dozen you are legally allowed to go the wrong a down a one way street.

[-] SnerkRabbledauber@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

Mmmmmm. Tamales.

[-] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 47 points 3 days ago

The biggest trick the patriarchy pulled was inventing misandry as a response to women just wanting equal rights, which was seen as an attack on men

[-] disorderly@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago

It's a good trick for sure, but I think the greatest trick was convincing young men that women were the ones taking away their opportunities rather than old men.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

My female boss told me "I don't trust men with the money, that's why I don't promote them to shift manager" how is that an old man's fault?

[-] carin_heron@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, but I also think it's important to specify that men will more often call misandry when women hold them individually accountable for their behaviour, rather than it normally being in response to women challenging the system.

Misandry is what they think it is when women tell them they're not entitled to sex or to even express misogynistic, patriarchal values. I was called a misandrist once for saying I'm not comfortable with men because of trauma, and the overwhelming consistency in negative experiences with nearly every man I met until I was an adult (at which point I was more free to simply not interact with them).

[-] psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

People need to get it in their heads that men as a group materially benefit from patriarchy the same way that white people benefit from white supremacism. This whole gilded cage nonsense isn't true. Rapists and people who commit femicide like the power they have and they aren't victims. Saying patriarchy hurts them too is the same kind of logic used to defend imperialist soldiers: he didn't know any better.

Even the "good men" benefit from being compared to the bad ones and from being seen as protectors.

The whole idea of what masculinity is has to be reconstructed from scratch. It has been associated with misogyny for like thousands of years. We need a total society shift and a whole new reification of gender.

[-] carin_heron@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is very true, no amount of suffering is worth committing yourself to injustice, even if the suffering they experience could even be as bad as they seem to think it is. I think it is also important to specify that they enjoy the power patriarchy affords them while still understanding that they aren't satisfied with this system. Many men resort to anti-feminist, conservative talking points merely out of recognition that their only vectors to a (potentially) more fulfilling way of life is to either implement substantial and fundamental changes to society, or capitalize on preexisting inequities and wrestle away what little is afforded to those beneath them in the hierarchy. They're not lying when they say that this is miserable, trans women certainly know that the way we raise men is brutal and dehumanizing, even if they access privilege through the process.

The existence of transness also tells us that privilege is indeed not an insurmountable barrier to self-reflection and change, which means the men who choose to be disatisfied and take it out on those whom they know are more vulnerable really are just pieces of shit who could simply not do what they do. God knows they'd suffer less for defying patriarchy than trans women do, and even that is too much of a cost for many of them.

I don't know if we need to reconstruct it from scratch, even if just because I don't think we should have a cultural understanding of masculinity that doesn't remember the harm that came from the social and material relations that the current hegemonic masculinity emerged from. Whatever comes next will always exist with a relationality to this patriarchal system which has caused monumental degrees of harm to human life, and all life on this planet. I also don't know if I'd call this form of patriarchy a continuity from what preexisted capitalism and European settler-colonialism, since so much of hegemonic masculinity is defined by white supremacy, commodification of nature, property, and so on.

It really is a uniquely -- pathologically -- violent way of life. I think that is reflected in how obvious it is that men would rather have something different, and simply call misandry because they resent the fact that they don't have the power to do that while still getting to be disgustingly fixated on dominating others.

[-] psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 33 minutes ago

Has it patriarchy ever been abolished successfully? I don't even think I know what that looks like.

Misandry isn't real btw. It's as unserious as reverse racism.

[-] charokol@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What is the “(character) is homophobic?” trend?

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 26 points 3 days ago

I feel like the internet is gas lighting me right now because I can't find any evidence of it existing but ive seen that shit before. I'm going to blame Elon because I believe it originated on Twitter and after they started making people sign up to see posts getting info from that site is impossible.

Basically the format is usually 1 fem character, and another character of any gender. The fem character would say "I don't like guys", meaning they were a lesbian. The other one would have a thought bubble that says something like "Fem is a misandrist?!", and say to fem "Thats awesome", leading the fem character to think "Other is an ally?!" and that was pretty much it.

it was funnier to see in meme form but. i can not find it.

[-] alapakala@quokk.au 28 points 2 days ago

it's actually a twist of this meme
Light×Kira
Noelle×Carol

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago

OMG YES THANK YOU THE NOELLE ONE WAS EXACTLY THR ONE I WAS LOOKING FOR

[-] alapakala@quokk.au 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

On my wife’s 🛜, she saw them more as “character is gay?” than “character is homophobic.” She can't find the SonicxShad, Owl House, Gravity fall, X-men ones, etc., but we do recall them. We just can't find the kym entry.

The X-men one was particularly hilarious, because Wolverine is canonically bisexual, and Morph fluid. And they weren't even phobic-questioning, it was just Logan speaking in his boomer-esqueway, and Morph being confused cause he’s a millennial.

[-] XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

am i supposed to read this as something other than "On my wife's wifi"?

[-] alapakala@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago

That works😆, but she means her feed. Kids call it “fyp” these days.

[-] etaoin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

The feed symbol is rotated 45° compared to the wifi symbol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Feed-icon.svg

[-] alapakala@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago

If only Unicode would accept rotation marks ╮(︶▽︶)╭

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

I usually see it as a man saying "I don't like women", then someone else mistakes them for a sexist and says "that's not good", then THEY get mistaken for a homophobe. Hence "(character) is homophobic?"

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 6 points 3 days ago

its possible I just saw a disproportionate amount of ones about lesbians LOL

i feel like ive seen it the way youre describing it as well it just didnt come to mind first

[-] charokol@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

At least the meme makes sense now! Thank you

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

OP's imagination

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