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In the wake of the Proton controversy, I've been looking towards alternatives towards their services. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a good alternative to ProtonVPN. I'm looking for the following in a VPN service:

  • Port forwarding support
  • Open source
  • Android app and Firefox extension available
  • Relatively cheap, around $3-4 month (okay with annual pricing)

The only options I found were Private Internet Access and Windscribe, but I found issues with them. If I'm cutting ties with Proton based on ideals I disagree with, I should be rejecting alternatives on the same basis.

Based on what I saw in the PIA subreddit, Private Internet Access seems to have some issues with service reliability and concerns about its ownership having ties to Israel, implying Zionist affiliation. Windscribe seems to have better service, but they have had a questionable social media history: edgy marketing including an AI-generated Hitler and a controversy where, according to them, they joked about a guy being mentally ill but their post easily looked like they were saying trans people are mentally ill.

Is there an option I missed? Should I try one of these options despite their faults? I'd like to know your thoughts.

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Njalla is the most trustworthy vpn, imo. The founder is one of the founders of the Pirate Bay. He is quite committed to privacy.

[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 days ago

AirVPN user for the past few years. No complaints except their website user interface.

[-] TheLastOfHisName@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago

I will throw in a +1 for AirVPN. I also like their pricing structure. It's very flexible. I have it on my laptop and my phone.

[-] brb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Same. AirVPN seemed to be the only one offering static port forwarding at decent price when I was comparing options.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I tried them about a year ago but everything was miserably slow

[-] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago

Not all of their servers are created equal.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I tried 3 different servers and they all sucked. At some point you stop giving them the benefit of the doubt

[-] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 1 points 2 days ago

One of the things I noticed it that it was absolutely fine for downloading... things... from various file sharing type resources, but I had to fiddle with the settings to steam HD video. I just followed a setup guide I found with google to troubleshoot that, but it probably is worth mentioning that streaming can be a problem if you don't.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Really? A friend left AirVPN because of the connection always dropping. Dunno what they moved to afterwards, but no complaints in the group chat since. It was difficult to have a call with them because the connection just kept dropping a few minutes into the call.

[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Weird. I've never had an issue with their reliability. I have only ever used the Netherlands or US servers though

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

That might've been the issue. No idea which countries they were using.

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[-] mentalcel@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Ivpn, not really cheap though

Riseup is also trustworthy, but its unbearably slow

[-] TheSyndZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

No port forwarding at IPVN

[-] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

I’ve seen AirVPN and IVPN mentioned in this type of thread but haven’t fully evaluated them yet as I’m in the same situation of gathering options.

[-] dusk@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

They appear to be the only ethical 2 left since the mullvad incident

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[-] smoothspoon@feddit.online 4 points 3 days ago

I'm considering them despite the UI issues and the fact that they don't have a Firefox extension. I just don't know if I want a service that doesn't have the latter. For context, I'm particular about the extension because I want to able to whitelist specific websites from the VPN. Currently, ProtonVPN's app doesn't offer that (and I'm not sure any other VPN offers that either) so I have to enable split tunneling to disable VPN for Firefox, then install the extension to use the VPN in Firefox, except for websites I've whitelisted.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

For context, I’m particular about the extension because I want to able to whitelist specific websites from the VPN

If you are able to export VPN configurations, can't you use an extension like FoxyProxy for either of these? Admittedly, this can be a little tedious, and you might have to do some research first.

Alternatively, you might want to see if you can just download a portable version of Firefox and exclude one of the Foxes through split tunneling.

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[-] Eudaimonia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm still waiting for my mullvad VPN (fascist CEO) to end and decided to then switch to iVPN.

[-] thrillhousedev@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Get yourself a cloud host with locations you want and run your own Algo VPN. It deploys in minutes, is disposable, and is completely under your control. Keeping one up 24/7 might cost $5/month depending on your host.

Repo: https://github.com/trailofbits/algo/

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Even easier and super censorship-resistant (battle-tested in Russia of all places, where all conventional options are blocked): AmneziaVPN

https://github.com/amnezia-vpn/amnezia-client (Also available on official website, Google Play and App Store. No Firefox extension is available, but Linux/Windows/MacOS apps are all in place)

All you need to do is spin up a server on any VPS and give AmneziaVPN app root credentials to it. The rest will be done automatically within seconds. You don't need to set up anything manually. In fact, you never need to ssh to your VPS at all.

(Obviously, do not use this installation method if you have anything else on the server. For that case, manual AmneziaWG install is available)

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

A major selling point of VPNs is mixing the traffic of all users.

If you are in a surveilled country, you're the only one using your VPS, and the destination server is in a surveilled country, then all your traffic will look like: you -> VPS -> destination. You would have to have multiple VPS servers in non-surveilled countries, and constantly rotate the servers to avoid the intermediate hops from getting associated to your identity, and that's hoping that the VPS company doesn't get subpoenad (since they likely have your credit card info and can leak your identity).

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Indeed, that's an important point to remember.

Personally, I place exit server in a jurisditction that doesn't answer to my local authorities, and have several other people use the server.

[-] dotslashme@infosec.pub 7 points 3 days ago

I am going to recommend AzireVpn, I used to be a customer and was very happy, but switched to proton some years ago because I had my email with them. Not sure if their apps are open source and if they have browser extensions though.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Ooh, they have port forwarding. I'll definitely look into them further

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Someone yesterday on Lenny mentioned Obscura which I hadn’t previously been aware of. Looks cool but that’s all I know. Planning on trying them out myself when my ProtonVPN subscription ends:

https://obscura.com/

[-] SMillerNL@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

Exit hops never see who you are Exit servers (run by Mullvad) connect you to the internet but never see your personal info. Obscura masks your real IP address when relaying to the exit server.

Looks like it’s just mullvad in a trench coat.

[-] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Surfshark. Not open source. But so far works well for a decent price.

Mullvad went fascist and doesn't work with streaming services.

Still have protonvpn too, but it wasn't working well on my pc. Won't renew proton.

And in the process of ditching other proton services too. What a shame. Unless they ditch Andy Yen, not going back.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago

Does anyone know anything about NymVPN?

https://f-droid.org/packages/net.nymtech.nymvpn

Are there any trusted reviews for this?

Last I checked they don't sign their releases, which was a big red flag

[-] pglpm@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Port forwarding seems difficult to find.

Check out hide.me, compared here, and others compared at https://techlore.tech/vpn.

I'm looking as well.

[-] smoothspoon@feddit.online 4 points 3 days ago

Interesting website, thanks for sharing.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I use Mullvad but know nothing about them. Apparently they were good back in the day when I got them, no idea now.

It works.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago

Mullvad supports right-wing extremist parties

[-] storm_shadow@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Hey now, they're not right wing extremists. All they want to do is deport all the non-whites, since they're criminals!

[-] smoothspoon@feddit.online 13 points 3 days ago

Even ignoring the fact that they discontinued port forwarding, there is the whole controversy about their CEO donating to far right politicians. It's a shame because they seem to be pretty good service-wise, and I might've considered going with them despite the no port forwarding.

[-] Rose@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

He's not the CEO as far as I'm aware, but it's still a valid reason to stay away from Mullvad.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

He's one of the 2 owners. Half of all the profits go to him

[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Mullvad is arguably the best VPN provider for security and anonymity.

Unfortunately, they stopped offering port forwarding a few years ago because people were hosting some awful stuff and causing their servers to be confiscated by authorities. Their reasoning for it was sound - servers being disconnected meant it was disrupting other users on that server as well.

They refunded everyone for their remaining time (if requested) after removing port forwarding.

[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

Mullvad is a mole

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