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I think she’s earned life in prison at this point. They should stop trying.
She’s not innocent, she’s a murderer, but she also doesn’t deserve to be tortured by the state either. Life in prison.
That she is. She killed her at 19 years old, which is pretty young. In germany, it would be legal not to try her as an adult and she would not get capital punishment. Probably fifteen years and change and getting out if she can be rehabilitated after that. This is just cruel.
She also tried to kill another prisoner several years after her initial crime. That's reason to believe she's more murderous than the average murderer and would present a danger to the public if released.
Life in prison or a mental health facility seems like the only reasonable option to me unless she was able to present compelling evidence that she is no longer dangerous.
I was not aware of that. American prisons are fucked up, so this might still have been a survival situation. But even if not she, like any human, deserves a life in a peaceful person cell with decent food. Prison is about protecting people from her, not about punishment but rehabilitation. And if that is impossible she can't go free but there is no need for revenge in a just society.
That person came out and said later she had intended to kill someone and she did it to try to stop her. Which not all the stories line up but unless she was scared enough of a woman in solitary confinement, I think should could have some bearing on whether or not such should be used against her.
That’s fucking retarted. She literally killed soemone and people are complaining about HER rights. Fuck her she’s a goddamn murderer they should hang her. She plotted and stabbed to death a poor 19 year old girl and you’re like oh Germany that’s only 15 years no big deal. Not surprising Germany doesn’t have respect for human life.
Executions last time I heard, where more expensive anyways.
How? I mean obviously the answer is rancid festering weaponized capitalism, but gawt dayum how can we make 30 years of prisoner rent, food, and clothing cost the same as what should be a milligram of fentanyl?
Most people sentenced to death spend a lot of time fighting in court, which is much more expensive than simply keeping someone alive for 30+ years.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/what-to-know-costs-and-the-death-penalty
Wouldn't that also be true for someone condemned to life in prison?
In any case, I feel like people given life, especially at 18, should be given the option of death, life sentence is way harsher than death in my eyes.
You also have all those costs while people are on death-row and going through the appeals, which can take decades by itself.
Americans can’t even execute people correctly anymore. They just torture them. I guess that’s the point?
You don’t get stats like these if it’s not the point:
You can thank the 13th amendment and companies like Sysco who profit off of the now legal ~~inmates~~ slaves
It’s truly the most frustrating part because like we could very easily just take these ghouls’ absurd wealths and we wouldn’t even need slavery anymore at this point.
99% of our species’ problems are self-inflicted by the same people, like you could effectively solve climate change, global starvation, poverty, slavery, crime, and so many other things by just fucking eradicating the top 100,000 parasitic humans and educating the rest about their crimes.
All good, US won't be in NATO soon enough, fixing this graph's problems.
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By and large that is the point. It's an extension of protestantism and Christian and abrahamic philosophy more broadly: a philosophical imagining that by creating pain in one place you undo pain in another.
By engaging in a known wrong (murder), this somehow acts as a counterweight to some other known wrong (also murder).
It's pretty juvenile.
It's revenge, but it's also avoiding responsibility. The words say it, "sentenced to death, and may God have mercy on your soul". Everyone already lost. The victims. The murderer. Society. Killing doesn't solve anything, it doesn't deter more murders, it just removes them from being the state's problem.
And it doesn't allow us to pursue the question everyone asks, why did this happen? Because they're dead.
What's the legality with this ?
Is she still going to be executed.....again?
Doubtful. They had their chance and botched it. They are going to want to draw as little attention to this as possible. Likely just keep her locked up for life.
This has happened before and the court ruled the person was still condemned to die, at least one person has been executed twice.
I thought I saw somewhere that it's something like 7 percent of the people fail to die from it. So if that's true and they gave her 2 doses that day and it didn't work, you'd imagine the population would think finding a different method would be the preferred way to move forward. Then again... Most people who don't believe in the death penalty likely wouldn't want to vote for a new method, thus making it those who don't want the death penalty, and those who don't care that they are tortured voting potentially for the same result. : /
She killed someone in 1995, what does executing her now and even failing at that to the point of torture accomplish, if premeditated murder is a crime than how is it okay for the government to do the same as a form of punishment, it feels barbaric and outdated. The only situation I can see it acceptable is if the person is found guilty beyond doubt and their continued existence poses a threat like terrorists who people might try to break out or people who can run their crimes even behind bars
The point of capital punishment is not justice. It is to "heal" the sovereignty of the state, which it deems to have been injured by behavior outside of it's control. First it's criminals killing innocent people, then what's next? The populace killing their oppressors? Honestly the same can be said about the politics surrounding abortion. They don't care that a pregnancy is terminated, they care that they had no say. The state are to be the only one's with the power to grant life or death. This is how you reconcile the logical inconsistency of the pro-life people being the same as the pro capital punishment people people. It's all about the sovereignty of the state. This, incidentally, is also the motivation behind Please Hangseth's attempt to reestablish public execution.
It is to “heal” the sovereignty of the state
Think it also has something to do with healing the victim's loved ones.
If someone carved a pentagram into my loved one's chest then crushed their skull, I would feel a whole lot better if they were dead as fuck. I would not feel comfortable as long as they remained on the same plane of existence as me.
Yup it's about establishing the monopoly on violence, back in the day the used the excuse of the mandate of god, now they use the excuse of flag and country
conservatives love execution, it is why red states have it still.
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What I want to know is "Will she hurt other people if released?" If she won't hurt anyone, let her out. If she will, keep her locked up. But there's no need to execute her. No good can come of it.
No, she should never be released. But to try to execute her again would constitute Cruel & Unusual Punishment, prohibited in the Constitution. The government took their shot and missed. Her sentence should be commuted to a Life Sentence without parole, and she should go back to being forgotten.
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