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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

Universal prefernces:

  1. Lightweight
  2. FOSS
  3. Resource-effeciency
  4. Offline-capable

Nice-to-have but non-garenteed features:

  1. Eco-friendly
  2. Decentralized
  3. Complete independence from original service. Use frontend if possible

Avoiding alternative software developers (or companies/cooperations), only use their products as a last resort:

  • Proton
  • Mullvad
  • Tuta
  • Mozzila
  • FUTO

De-Boogle

Boogle Search:

  1. SearxNG
  2. Marginalia
  3. YaCy

Boogle Chrome:

  1. FREE Browser
  2. Librewolf
  3. Tor Browser

Boogle Mail:

  • Service provider - mailbox.org with a custom domain
  • Client:
  1. FairEmail
  2. Posteo
  3. Thunderbird

Boogle Maps:

  • Modified PWA - Gmaps WV
  • Map data - OpenStreetMaps
  • Client - CoMaps

Boogle Gemini:

  1. Duck.ai
  2. Ollama

Boogle Play:

  • Repo:
  1. F-Droid
  2. IzzyOnDroid
  3. Obtainium
  • Client - Aurora Store
  • Client for repos:
  1. Droid-ify
  2. ObtainX

YouTube:

  • Platform - PeerTube
  • Frontend - Invidious
  • Frontend instance - materialio.us, ytchocolatemoo.com, Self-hosted
  • Client:
  1. FreeTube
  2. PlasmaTube

Boogle messages:

  1. Fossify Messager
  2. NovaDial

Boogle My Files:

  1. Fossify File Manager

VirusTotal

  1. Veto
  2. Hypatia

Android - GrapeheneOS

Android Auto - Phone stand for car

De-Microslop

Windows:

  1. CachyOS
  2. Nobara

Office (or "Microslop Copilot 365"):

  1. MA Office
  2. LibreOffice
  3. OnlyOffice

De-Meta

Facebook and instagram:

  • Platform - Mastodon
  • Client for platform - Smither

WhatsApp - SimpleX Chat

De-ByteDance:

TikTok - Loops

CapCut:

  1. LibreCuts
  2. Kdenlive

Hypic (photo editor):

  1. Pocket Paint
  2. Pinta
  3. Inkscape
  4. GIMP

Gaming

  • Minecraft:
  1. Luanti
  2. Cubys
  • Universe Sandbox - Galaxy Engine

  • Space Engine - Celestia

  • Territorial.io - OpenFront

  • Tetris - Block Drop

  • Wordle - Code Word

  • Friday Night Funkin - Etterna

General internet:

Domain name system:

  1. Adguard DNS
  2. NextDNS
  3. Quad9

Virtual private network:

  1. Manual Wireguard VPN tunnel
  2. Manual OpenVPN tunnel
  3. Tor Network

Proxy:

  1. HTTPS Proxy
  2. SOCKS5 Proxy
  3. Tor Proxy

(not really related for De-googling or opensource but mpreso for de-bloating) File types and codecs (wheneber possible):

.png/.JPEG:

  1. .webp
  2. jxl

.exc:

  1. .ods

.mp4:

  1. .webm
  2. .VP9

.mp3:

  1. .OPUS
  2. .m4a

Other:

Reddit:

  • Platform - Lemmy
  • Frontend - Redlib
  • Frontend instance - saferreddit.com, self-hosted

Github:

  • Repo - Gitlab, Codeberg
  • Frontend - Gothub (no chosen instance yet)

New additions:

  1. Privacy Flip
  2. Shizuku
  3. Canta
  4. EnforceDoze
  5. SaverTuner
  6. Wine
  7. Virtual Box
  8. Librefind
  9. sustysubs.net
  10. Yagni Launcher
  11. LTE Cleaner

Useless reccomendations for me:

  • Termux

On the sidelijes of comsideration:

  • WizeStream (NewPipe fork)
  • Flow (YouTube client)
  • Skylib (Bluesky client, unlikely to actaully use)

Could use reccomendations for:

  • Linux file manager
  • Linux non-cloud-based photo gallery
  • Long-term Linux distro if I find my beginner-friendly distros a bit pale in the future

Remaining questions:

  • If you tested or use QubesOS, how's the experience?
  • Do you use a non-Linux-based FOSS operating system (like ReactOS)? If so, how's the experience?
  • Any alternatives I missed?
  • Any other software categories I missed?
  • Any other new additions that I missed?

Correct any misunderstandings if you can

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[-] Aqueduct5908@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I don't think I've seen anyone say to avoid tuta before, can I ask why you include them in that section?

[-] OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

They are in a similar controversy to Proton

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In the least judgemental way possible — consider familiarising yourself with languagetool https://languagetool.org/ (supports many languages; supported by some programs, like LibreOffice), you can self host it or use severs provided by 3rd party or Harper https://github.com/Automattic/harper (currently supports only English; and has very limited support by other programs). Because "de-boogle" is definitely a choice for an typo (ᵕ—ᴗ—)

Boogle Maps:

While maps is important and all that, but do not forget about public transportation. Currently, CoMaps is useless for that, so it is also worth mentioning solutions for public transportation. The biggest open source solution currently is https://transitous.org/ There also list of programs that use this service, like https://github.com/Wafler1/transportia

Note, that in some countries this service might give results that are ranging from full to none, compared to Google or other providers.

YouTube * Client:

Still, GrayJay is really good for YouTube (and PeerTube and more), with cool features like local network sync, Harbor for decentralised comments, Linux client, download for videos and stuff that are part of ui (meaning, that you download videos inside of GrayJay), and more.

Boogle messages:

Note, that this does not cover RCS functionality.

Gaming

Worth mentioning Shattered Pixel Dungeon.

[-] OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Ok. I'll vhevl out LanguageTool and Transitious

[-] OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

GrayJay is FUTO. Idk anything about RCS. I don't know ANYTHING ahout shattered Pixel Dungeon

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

GrayJay is FUTO

Why this is bad?

[-] OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago
[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago
[-] OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago
[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

What issues?

As far I am aware, their license does not allow to distribute Grayjay as non free (as in price), so you can not make money of it, and you can not disable their payment feature.

So if I understand this correctly, nothing stops anyone to make fork of, say, Grayjay and be independent from FUTO, with only limitation of not being able to remove payment stuff and doing so without making program into commercial product.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

Not an open-source liscense

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

What does that mean in the context of discussion?

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

FUTO's apps do not have a liscense that fit with the open-source ecosystem. Because of this, I don't count the raw Firebox browser open-source

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

What does ",liscense that fit with the open-source ecosystem" means? How does it not fit? Why?

don't count the raw Firebox browser open-source

Once again, but why?

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Liscensing is very important. It's like a policy for the developer to obey. Liscenses that fit with the OSS spirit: MIT, any GPL liscense, Apache. They need the developer to compky that their apps' code should be easily modifiable, be public, and not allow unneccessary trackers when on F-Droid or Flathub. Also, raw Firefox isn't open-source because it doesn't have an open-source liscense

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

need the developer to compky that their apps' code should be easily modifiable, be public, and not allow unneccessary trackers when on F-Droid or Flathub

Nothing of that is blocked by FUTO license. Also Grayjay is on flathub.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

I heard the modifying the source code is blocked

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Once again, who blocks what? And why you heard about it, not read? it is freely available, https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE.md What part of this license does not allow modification? Or what part of text makes this project not being open source in your eyes?

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I know, what license is, but I do not know why you do not consider FUTO license to not be open source? what is "OSS spirit"?

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

I heard that the liscense FUTO uses doesn't fit into the OSS spirit (OSS stands for "open-source software")

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I heard that the liscense FUTO

You heard? Did you even read the text of their license?

uses doesn't fit into the OSS spirit

By which metric? By whom? Why?

(OSS stands for "open-source software")

I know the meaning. What I am asking is what the heck is "OSS spirit". And what makes one open source project to have "spirit" and other to not have said spirit?

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

Just look at their products at "isitreallyfoss.com"

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Why should I base my opinion on someone's else opinion from some website?

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

Also, why do people trust security audits? Why do you trust the people who made the software for you? Why do you trust others?

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Why do you trust the people who made the software for you?

I do not trust them \(ツ)/

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

... Then how are you using software? If you don't trust software devs, then how are you using it to argue with me on Lemmy?

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Using it by assumption that if things will go wrong or not as I wanted to — I can only blame myself. I would not be able to blame or sue authors of this software because most of it provided by "AS-IS" bases, that written in most licenses.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

Blah blah blah nonsense words

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Why is it "nonsense words"? I think I clearly explained what I meant.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 22 hours ago

Blah blah blah nonsense words at the end of da day don't care

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

It's not about opinions. Also, here's a screenshot from RedReader

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, you can not use it in commercially, and can not remove their payment stuff + attribution. You can share, modify, change, distribute it otherwise. What part of this not makes it open source?

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

"You cannot use it in commercially, you cannot remove their payment stuff" Brother, is this not restricting the use of the source code?

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

The same way that license of, say, MIT forces you to comply with itself (in its case provide text of license + you are not allowed to remove attribution), or GPL that provides it's own term in condition.

For me personally, MIT is what open source should be or even Public Domain, not GPL, hence why I am asking by which metric it is not open source.

For me being able to share, modify, distribute for free of monetary charge is Open Source. None of which is blocked by their FUTO license, as far I am aware.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago
[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

So you consider something to be Open Source based on FSF and/or OSI definition? If that is the case, then I am even more confused on why you do not consider raw Firefox to be open source. In that case I can agree on why you do not consider FUTO licenses to be open source.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

The word "spirit" can be used in many other contexts. Seems like you don't know basic internet speech more than degoogling terms

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

No, I specifically asking what "OSS spirit" means. What makes open source project to have "OSS spirit"? What it specifically means, so I can understand what you mean by something having "OSS spirit".

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

No but seriously, I can't explain it because it's self-explanatory-only

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

How it self explanatory? okay, provide then examples of what you consider "OSS spirited" and what is not "OSS spirited", maybe I will understand it this way, if it "I can't explain", please

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

... sigh You're a pain in the butt. Look, maayyyybeeee there's a simpler way to explain this, so if there's someone oit there that thinks differently than me (that's not val_ash@feddit.org), please do it. I often think too complicatedly

[-] val_ash@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

You're a pain in the butt

You are the one who use term "OSS spirit" without explaining what it means when I asked what is that, and then spent maybe 3 comments saying that I do not understand basic internet language ¯\(ツ)_/¯ instead.

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

Oops. Looks like we aren't repectful to eachother. Gotta report myself and you!

[-] MisterFred@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago

Seems like you really don't know about basic internet language lol

[-] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Software boogie woogie. 🕺

[-] OppositeMeaning@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago
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