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"In hindsight, it was a mistake for SpaceX to send (Ukraine) thousands of free Starlink dishes and millions of dollars a month in free service at the beginning of the war," the post reads.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Sieze his assets and deport him back to South Africa

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's harsh towards South Africa.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

congress should just nationalize starlink (and spacex) if our defense posture depends on it. No company exec should be able to influence our foreign policy at his whim. The company will operate just fine without Musk, if not better.

[-] dudeface@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The American people paid for them fuckwit

Corporate welfare gave you everything you have

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Europe did as well. An astronomic price for internet service

The huge amount of money being paid for Ukraine to have Starlink/Starshield access contributed to SoaceX's ridiculous valuation

[-] Stormy@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

Remember when France raided his Paris office, and the next day he cut off russians access to the terminals? I remember.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Absolutely, Tesla and SpaceX were built on public subsidies and contracts.

[-] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 60 points 2 days ago

In hindsight, it was a mistake for SpaceX to send (Ukraine) thousands of free Starlink dishes

It was a mistake for Ukraine to accept them too, if you ask me. Becoming dependent on a mercurial neo-Nazi like Musk is not a smart idea. But I guess needs must when the devil drives.

[-] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 2 days ago

There isn't any alternative. It was either to take it from Musk or to struggle without communication and die.

[-] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 4 points 2 days ago

fiber optics tethered drones go brrrr

[-] Fluke@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago

Not for 500+ miles they don't.

[-] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago

Not with that attitude

[-] zoloftt@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

In war, even a short lived advantage, is still an advantage.

They didn't become solely reliant on it, they still use fiber drones and other lower bandwidth rf alternatives.

They were smart in their application and have politicized the waiver starlink support very effectively.

Overall I believe they've done a fantastic job adapting to their available options. Semper Gumby.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Move to Russia already you traitor dirtbag

[-] THEPIGWHODIDIT@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

No one should be using starlink. It has been shown to be completely untrustworthy as a service both by Elon and how it has been used and abused by foreign governments.

The sooner Europe, China and all these other regions build their own, the better.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, because even more satellites in lLEO is exactly what humanity needs right now, we still. Don't have enough pollution and Kessler was just a pussy, right?

[-] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

Kessler syndrome isn't a big problem in LEO relatively speaking as everything there will fall quickly if not boosted

But pollution is real

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Unlikely

It still requires time if we were talking about complete satellites, but we're not

Two satellites collide and you'll have millions if not billions of particles of all kinds of sizes that will stay there for years. Each of those xab damage or explode (if big enough) other satellites. Yes, I'm explaining what Kessler is here, but the point is that it will take years if not decades for Leo to clean up enough to be able to launch anything through that mess and during that time the satellites that were there, well, no longer are.

It WILL be a problem. We have hundreds of satellites at countless altitudes, but starlink just exploded the amount of shit satellites for that altitude. I never thought there would be a good application for it, but lo and behold, at least Ukraine can get good use out of them, good for them, in happy for them, but fuck everything else about starlink. I can see those craps flying through the sky at night, Elmo decided we didn't have enough garbage and pollution everywhere sonhe just decided to add a shit tonne to it.

Now Europe wants its own? China too? Why not every country, then, because we're nsuxh a shitty species that we'd rather destroy ourselves over just cooperation with each other

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

We should nationalize Starlink and provided it as an at-cost service similar to GPS

[-] THEPIGWHODIDIT@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If we could have a worldwide apolitical setup that made better use of the night sky that we love then that would be best, but we can't. The ability to communicate in this way is a geopolitical necessity in any modern warfare. Space and AI are the new arms race

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

The mistake was to use starlink for a mission critical purposes.

No more government money for starlink

[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

The mistake was to use starlink for us government purposes, including allowing it organizing totally uncontrolled communications of the white house, who knows what classified info was shared this time with russia or the other dictators.

The second mistake was to give starlink/spacex any subsidies at all, a company claiming to be that big can easily stand on its own legs.

Another oops was the dismantling of the respected NASA in favor of spaceX to let it decide on anything spacefaring.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

is this why they keep emailing me ads even though I told them to remove me for the past 3 years?

[-] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

You have an unsubscribe link? The shit I get doesn’t even have an unsubscribe button and comes from a noreply address.

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