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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Japanese businessmen don't fuck around, and they wait for no one.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 48 points 7 hours ago

Japan keeping fax machines around suddenly looks less like resistance to progress and more like disaster recovery planning. Microsoft spent years selling the future of work, only for a paper tray and a dial tone to become the high availability tier.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 6 hours ago

Reminder that eicker is an undisclosed AI bot account that advertised AI services in its bio.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Old salaryman in boardroom: “This meeting could have been a fax.”

[-] hneerqe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I'll guess any business grade copy machine can also do fax without much setup. Old protocols don't just vanish. It was only microslop that went down, that shit is just not needed that badly.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago
[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 4 points 4 hours ago

Hell yeah, let's go! I want adobe to suffer as well.

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today 13 points 6 hours ago

They stopped using fax machines?

[-] Obviouslywrong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They're trying to move away from it officially.

[-] YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Just pretending

[-] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago

I think I've read somewhere today that Germans did the same.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago

Yes, how we love our fax machines. 🙈😂

[-] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

In the context of current events, it seems a practical and smart crisis planning step. Especially useful for hospitals and institutions to secure a necessary data flow.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

It seems to me far wiser to spread services more widely across several providers. Seriously: how daft is it to buy email, instant messaging, video conferencing from a single provider?

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Microsoft builds its ecosystem around vendor lock-in. You're using Entra? M365 integrates real nicely with that. Oh, you want to use something else? Well, good luck with that, our documentation is so piss poor even CoPilot won't be able to help you. And once you drink the M365 kool-aid, now you have Exchange, Outlook, Teams and Office. You also get afflicted with SharePoint as a bonus! Good luck justifying anything else to your management.

Honestly, I don't see how MS hasn't fall afoul of EU anti-trust laws, again. They have bound everything up so tightly that you're lucky installing Windows doesn't obligate you to a lifetime of M365 subscription costs.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

Interoperability becomes an issue though. FLOSS and federated systems help there, but we all know the big providers aren't going to play ball. Unless we rebuild the whole stack from the ground up, proprietary systems are always going to try to funnel everyone into vendor lock-in and platform monopolies. This is the end result of choices that were made 30 years ago, based on assumptions that didn't hold up, but none of us now dealing with the consequences, had any say in making.

[-] aim4harmony@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, but a physical backup service in critical areas like fax could remain too.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago

Haven't seen one in ages, not even at doctors' offices.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 7 hours ago

What's the German word for fax machine?

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago
[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 7 hours ago

That's less funny than I hoped.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Ask what they call a cell phone. Go on. Ask.

[-] Obviouslywrong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago
[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It’ll either sound like a pastry or a weapon.

[-] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You hoped Germans would be funny?! As I've experienced, they love making puns in English, I assume because none are possible in German

[-] Flatearth_Habeebi@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

Next floppy disks, please.

[-] scops@reddthat.com 3 points 5 hours ago

This isn't adding up to me. Unless you're paying out the ass for an analog line, you need more that just a fax machine and a jack. You either have a VoIP system with fax support, or you've moved to a FoIP service that probably handles everything through email anyway (or both).

Unless you already do a ton of business through your phone system and can justify a robust solution, there's no way you're ready to just turn up some old All-In-Ones and you're just better off eating the cost of this outage and going after Microsoft for whatever your SLA gets you.

"Analog" is expensive as hell today and there's no way it's a justifiable expense outside of extremely remote areas.

[-] ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Considering the average age of the Japanese population I wouldn't be shocked to find out a somewhat big percentage still use last century methods. Hell, I remember somewhere mentioned the last system with floppies was finally put to rest on the government level (do not recall exactly the story but I think was in Japan)

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

I miss my fax machine. Wonder what ever happened to it.

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