Not being shot also helps
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Also not being run over by cars, and having the ability to walk/bike/take transit to get to places.
Netherlands doesn't represent the whole europe. This isn't the cycling/public transport utopia you think it is.
I'm well aware on account of living in non-Netherlands Europe.
It's a mixed bag for sure, but Europe as a whole does better on both the metrics I mentioned as compared to the U.S.
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Yeah but most places in Europe don't have 16 lane highways. And there's quite a lot of old tracks that you can cycle along even if the main roads don't have separated bike and traffic.
In the US you have the, guaranteed to cause collisions, grid layout and that's basically it. If the Americans could get a hold of the idea of not driving into each other they could also have roundabouts.
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While true compared to the USA almost every city in Europe is a bicycle dream.
Maybe biking is an exception, but for public transportation and walking, it is absolutely true that pretty much all of Europe is much better. It’s not even close.
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Nope. It's been scientifically shown that eating vegetables, clean protein, and olive oil drastically reduces your risk of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and stroke. Things that Americans don't eat.
Checks pizza:
- Flour crust, vegetable
- Pepperoni, clean cooked protein
- Olive Oil, probably
Probably more like
-glyphosate adulterated with some flour, wilted veggies but who will notice once they are cooked.
-Old sandwich meat that has been returned, scrubbed, and re-mashed into pepperoni (my mom worked at a plant that actually did this)
-mixture of mostly palm and other oils, not guaranteed to be from plants and perfumed, branded as extra virgin olive oil for a markup over the same thing without perfume sold as vegetable oil.
Side note: fuck palm oil as much as fuck nestle.
Edit: why does formatting suck with every Lemmy app.
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What Americans do you know? Everyone I know eats all of those things every single day.
Turns out there's more than just those 6 people in America.
The American diet is uniquely awful. Your social group is likely to include people in a similar socioeconomic position to you. If that means those people are eating lots of vegetables and clean fats then congratulations, you're doing pretty well.
That does not describe the diet of most Americans. It's rich in refined carbohydrates, "dirty" fats, processed meat, and very few vegetables, and the primary vegetable is the potato,, which is also essentially just another carbohydrate. It's better than deep fried flour, but not by much.
Pizza, all things considered, is fine, practically healthy, compared to the cheeseburger and fries that makes up the typical lunch for many Americans.
Most of the food we have easy, cheap access to is arguably addictive, high carbohydrate, low in nutrient, and generally just bad for you.
Which is why we have an obesity crisis and some of the worst rates of diabetes in the world.
Most of the food we have easy, cheap access to is arguably addictive, high carbohydrate, low in nutrient, and generally just bad for you.
This has been a complaint of mine, and my friends/family for a long time. You can't get healthy snacks, and if you can, they're expensive. I can get a payday candy bar, which is peanuts mixed with candy and a shit load of sugar and additives for - I guess they're about a dollar now. But if you want a small bag of peanuts without any of the other shit, it costs 3x more money. Seriously, what the fuck is that about? I can give a dozen other examples, but I'm sure you get it already.
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Universal healthcare might help but it is also--
- Auto accidents driven by car culture.
- Higher drug and alcohol abuse rates.
- Higher suicide rates driven by access to firearms.
- A culture of unhealthy eating that leads to obesity, heart disease, and increased risk of cancer.
Don't forget the wage slave mentality: forced long hours, extreme stress in a fast pace work environment, the non-existent vacation days, and at-will employment
Is alcohol abuse more prevalent in the US?
The US alcohol consumption avg. is 2.51 gallons, or 9.5 litres per person and year. In the EU the average is also 9.5 litres per person and year. For drug abuse i know the US have the specific opiod problem, but that also seems to be a result of a poor healthcare system, where taking painkillers until addiction is chosen over actually solving the underlying injuries for monetary reasons.
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Point 3 is just wrong.
Japanese don't have easy access to guns and yet Japan has one of the highest suicide rates.
Same with Uruguay, highest suicide rate in America without having easy access to guns.
The suicide rate obviously has multiple contributing factors, but access to firearms is absolutely one of them. There's multiple studies on this that will come up in a quick web search. In general, access to anything that makes suicide more impulsive increases the suicide rate. I say this as a person who absolutely believes that access to firearms should be the default state for those that want it.
This is a myth. The suicide rate in Japan is lower than the US, and similar to European countries. South Africa, Russia, and Korea have bonkers suicide rates.
Opportunity and desire both contribute to rate. Firearms increase opportunity so more of those with desire will try. Some cultures also give more people the desire so more attempts will be made using other methods. It is not either or.
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Off work late? Hungry, but too tired to cook? Try 30 to 40 olives. 30 to 40 olives: an easy weeknight dinner. eat them directly out of the jar with your fingers. you will certainly not regret eating 30 to 40 olives.
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But it is healthy lifestyles that are leading to the increase life expectancy. Also healthy life's make universal health care cheaper.
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If eating olives makes you live longer, I'll just die young.
Yech.
But olive oil is amazing.
I hate whole olives, but a great olive oil with bread is one of the essential joys in this world.
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Ummm Olives and Olive Oil are good for you and does lead to better health outcomes.
Access to medical care is a lot better for you than olives.
Ummm Olives and Olive Oil are good for you and does lead to better health outcomes.
Best I can do is olive flavored canola oil.
No one is saying Olive in place of healthcare though. Just pointing out that you may not need as much health care if you eat right and Europeans eat better than Americans.
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Not just universal health care but general lifestyle. But fast food, lack of amenities, and increasing reliance on cars will mean some Europeans turn into sedentary obese blobs and suffer the same health complications, if not expense, as their American counterparts.
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I would love to not have to pay $800usd +$200 monthly insurance just to get a questionable mole removed :')
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Yeah, no. They have 70 different systems and what you're talking about is the Mediterranean diet.
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It's all a massive conspiracy, just like how they said carrots are good for your eyes.
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As someone living in a country with universal healthcare I truly do wish it was like people online make it sound to be. Turns out you got to wait for a long time to see a doctor and you have to pay for it. Obviously it wont bankrupt you like it would in the US, but it's not exactly free either.
Depends on the implementation. Every single EU country does it slightly different. Here in Romania it's 100% paid for via taxation, the only thing you have to pay out of pocket for is heavily subsidized medication if it's been prescribed, and wait times are actually pretty ok.
The downside is we don't have any of the fancy new toys in any state-owned hospital due to a lack of funding, which means more complex surgeries are riskier, the latest and greatest medicine doesn't exist here and Romanian doctors have to rely more on the basics.
It's all trade-offs.
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That's usually down to underfunding than anything else, though. The NHS, for example, is a shadow of what it was like 20 years ago, thanks to years of purposeful underfunding.
And the prupose of the underfunding is to create the conditions on which to sell a fully privatized healthcare system to the population.
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I think most of those people you're referring to that are making it sound so good, are Americans who are pining for it. And rightfully so.
And anyone implying that there aren't wait times in the US are full of shit.
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Another point is that universal healthcare creates a free (or close to) baseline that private healthcare has to compete with.
If there's a free (or close to) option, the paid option has to be better to win people over to it. This can make overall healthcare better.
On the other hand, if there's no universal healthcare the private healthcare can simple be as bad as it wants. This can mean that overall healthcare is worse.
I think even if you aren't using the universal healthcare, your care is improved just by it being there.
Same. I live in Germany and used to live in the US (both with and without insurance). I would rather be here and support this system where everyone has access to Healthcare, but there is much I miss from the US. The care I got in the US (obviously stupid expensive) was better, easier and quicker. With that said, the care here is fine and enough and available for all but shouldn't be viewed through the rose colored glasses of americans.
I think it is a bit unfair to speak of rose colored glasses there.
There is many people in the US who simply cannot afford an ambulance being called for them, if they are in a serious health situation. The people that have "rose colored" glasses in this context are the people whose options are "any healthcare" and "no healthcare".
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