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[–] ProfessorGumby@midwest.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Civil forfeiture is theft plain and simple.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Truth.

ACAB.

[–] Vorticity@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I've never understood how civil asset forfeiture is constitutional. It seems like a 4th amendment violation.

Can someone point me to the judicial decisions that lead to this being legal?

[–] Widget@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Because it usually happens to "those" people.

[–] SlowNPC@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It is a 4th amendment violation, but some shit judge ruled otherwise at some point so they get to pretend it isn't.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It IS 4th amendment violation, period. It just that we're suffering from the repercussion of the fundamental problem with Common Law (USA and UK) vs Civil Law (Rest of Europe except UK.)

Reference on this. And scroll down and you'll see a row saying "Constitution: Always (For Civil Law) and Not Always (For Common Law.)

In a court of law, they make it a legal-game-scenario where constitutional rights aren't automatically applied to you and you have to explicitly invoked it at the right time. That kind of crap is asinine and why I think we need an overhaul politically.

[–] RedditExodus@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know they can seize other things than money but I always make a point to carry very little cash whenever I travel.

[–] Bowen@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's very little reason to do so. You could get robbed by anyone on the way to wherever you're going, it just so happens to be the police this time. I don't really understand the "I don't trust banks" nonsense. All that said, fuck the cops, and fuck this civil forfeiture shit.

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