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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 121 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

The ocean: state of impending catastrophe

Humans: can we make another kind of cheese from them?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's a hidden whale/dolphin society debating whether or not to invade humans right this very moment

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 23 points 7 months ago

If whales are smart enough to debate that, they probably have cultural memory of almost getting whaled to extinction. Which would make them like us less, but on the other hand, might make them afraid to get us too upset at them

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps it'll make your day better to know that Pacific nations have passed legislation recognising legal personhood for whales and dolphins, granting them rights against being hunted?

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 81 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Although I will admit that’s an interesting little fact, I would have been perfectly fine not knowing it.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unsubscribe from whale titty facts?

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well let's not go crazy here.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Whaaaale, let's not go crazy here.

[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

No need to thank me. You're whale cum.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago (5 children)
[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So many questions. How does one go about milking a whale? How do you make cheese from milk with a thickness similar to No. 4 Fuel Oil? Who was the first person to attempt to milk a whale? Who is buying up all these whale dairy products? Is there such a thing as a whale milk cheesecake?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So I elected not to look into it, because I doubt that zoos are selling it. Which means it’s likely sourced from whalers

Japan, Iceland, Norway, are all actively fishing commercially (though Japan uses the cover of “scientific” expeditions to justify it.)

[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

According to their process page the whales are guided into a harness and then milked. Whether or not we should believe it, I cannot say.

[–] Caspase8@aussie.zone 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't believe it. The profile photos of their 'team' look AI generated.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nothing is found when searching for their names. There's not a thing out there about "Chief Scientist" Mark Linneaus, although he claims to have had an academic career. If he in fact "dedicated more than 20 years to investigating how diet and environment shape mammalian milk production", it is surprising that his name is nowhere to be found on Google Scholar.

Not to get started on the pictures of their alleged cheeses. There's red flags all over the website. At least they don't accept orders, so it looks more like a joke than a scam.

It's a shame though, I would love to try sustainably produced whale cheese.

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[–] CoolGirl586@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well the reviews are from the Oculus marketing lead, a, Simian Field Reseacher (sic) and an independent shoe salesman. Two of them even have the same picture. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this isn't real.

Plus they're touting it as the new sustainable future of dairy. That alone is an insane thing to claim. There are fewer than thirty thousand gray whales in the world. They produce eighty gallons of milk a day. That's about twelve cows worth if you ignore that most of it is going to be drunk by the whale's calf.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Yup.

I’m thinking it either flopped or was never a thing.

I doubt it’s something that could be reliably commercialized.

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But why is this any more disgusting than cow milk cheese or goat milk cheese?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Well.

I hate to break it to you… but the whales probably aren’t milked more than once.

My guess is it’s sold by whalers.

[–] Dave 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They talk about their process. It involves a whale harness, and divers to do the milking of wild whales.

I'm honestly still wondering if this is an elaborate joke 😆

Edit: from their FAQ:

Is this a joke? No, this isn't a joke, and we're here to stay.

Further down the page:

Treating whales ethically and with respect is our #1 priority. All whales participate on a strictly voluntary basis

I'm still not convinced it's real...

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 11 points 7 months ago

aaand they're sold out

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[–] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 57 points 7 months ago (10 children)

100% that someone has tasted/drunk/chewed whale milk. In fact I don’t think there would be many species that haven’t been milk tasted by a human at this point

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

humans are some curious little fucks

[–] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago

You spelt disgusting wrong

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd drink whale milk without hesitation. It's probably fishy, though.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

Whales are mammals, so it probably tastes humany.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

How TF does a baby whale nurse then? The momma whale is essentially pooping lard out of her nipple? That's a visual I didn't expect today.

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 24 points 7 months ago (4 children)

? it just drinks it? like sure its thick but it still flows

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 22 points 7 months ago

The analogy of toothpaste was used but yoghurt in a poch might be a better analogy.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Must consume the forbidden icing

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've never had whale milk but I am willing to give it a whirl. who's with me

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

that would bring a new meaning to "full ~~cream~~fat" ice cream.... (editted a word)

[–] eeltech@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That must make some ultra indulgent ice cream

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago

so making cheese from whale milk would be like SUPER cheese.

[–] terry_tibbs@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Would this be the freshest cheese possible? Considering that cheese is traditionally not fresh in the slightest.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

cheese is traditionally not fresh in the slightest.

Oh, but it can be. Farmer's cheese and other fresh milk cheese types curdle the milk proteins using an acid reaction to citrus or vinegar rather than fermentation.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Fresh cheese is typically called curd. Curd needs to be compressed and aged to make actual cheese.

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