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PM 'open' to sending NZ peacekeepers to Ukraine (www.1news.co.nz)

submitted 2 days ago by BalpeenHammer to c/politics

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If there is an ongoing hot war you are not sending peacekeepers, you are sending mercenaries. If the war is over why do you need peacekeepers?

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[–] absGeekNZ 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Russia has a lot of power here - they have hundreds of thousands of troops in Ukraine

Source?

The estimates that I found were all over the place, with most credible sources saying somewhere between 90-160k troops, all pretty vague on where these people are currently. With up to 250k reserves.
The death toll in the order of 250k for Russia and 100k for Ukraine, with wounded at around 3 times that for both sides.

they have Oreshnik missiles which could destroy Kyiv’s government and economy district.

Why don't they then? I mean they have directly targeted nuclear energy, it is not like they are trying to save their international image.

The trick you are talking about is the shitty situation that Europe finds itself in. If Russia is not stopped, it will simply embolden Putin to continue what he is doing. There will be "peace" in the captured lands, this is simply a smoke screen to allow time for Russia to rebuild. In a few years they will take the next part, and the next. We saw this tactic with Crimea in 2014....it will happen again if Ukraine settles for Russia's peace.

The Ukrainian government is counting on a deception to provoke a full-scale war between European nations and Russia.

What exactly does Ukraine need to deceive anyone about, the naked truth is that Putin wants to expand Russian borders, Europe needs to grapple with this truth and come to their own conclusions.

The most interesting part is whether Trump will support Ukraine, or whether Trump will see Ukraine as a liability and give up on the situation.

We already know what Trump wants to do. His goal is to steal Ukraine's wealth while letting Russia do what it pleases with its new toy. Having a "negotiation" while one side is not there makes this blindingly obvious.