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CNN analyst says Trump looking at ways to outlaw Democratic party
(www.independent.co.uk)
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But also like...why when they're basically completely incompetent and just give the facisists what they want?
Why try to remove your most convenient opponent?
Fascism craves power. The mere existence of a second party is a threat to that power, even if it's an unrealized threat. But the potential is still there. Fascism will always seek to create a single-party state for this reason.
Precisely this. Any inkling, any glimmer of potential resistance, is too much. Even unenthusiastic acceptance isn't allowed. You have to stamp out the people who MIGHT POSSIBLY dissent, might possibly not WANT what's happening, to the eventual point that anything other than full-throated praise of what the regime is doing is disallowed.
Itd be better for them if they kept the democratic party around only contained and hobbled, like dems do to the 10-20% of their party who are progressives.
You're almost certainly correct, but fascism doesn't follow logic. It's merely seeks power. Even if giving up the tiniest bit of power would be a better strategy, fascism will eventually try to grab that power back.
Because there will be no other opponent. If they can use kirks murder to make one political party illegal, they can just make all political parties illegal
They have to have an opponent. If fascism doesn't have an enemy to fight, then people start asking for actual solutions to problems. Fascists have no solutions beyond blaming others.
The frame of reference here is political enemy, as in political party. Absolutely there will be enemies, and the list of them will get smaller and smaller over time until finally the last fascist kills himself.
This is exactly why I can only laugh and shake my head at the everyday fascists like Connor Estelle who think they will always be in the in-group. Fascism eats society from the outside in until there is nothing left.
Or they're not incompetent and this is all intentional and just more theater to make people believe there is actual opposition in our government.
They're incompetent as fuck. Yes, Democrats are basically running a game of manufactured consent; they're part of the system that allows vigorous debate inside a frame, but you're never allowed to leave the frame.
That's a line of theory that comes from leftists books--Noam Chomsky, in particular. Fascists don't read those books, or even read the hallucinated AI summary of them. They have no clue what so ever that the Democrats are key to propping this whole system up.
The frame is mostly enforced by top donors and the ones that do not want to rock the status quo, namely the Baby Boomers in Congress that are still benefiting from the current status quo.
That’s not to say Democrats wouldn’t fix some or many of the problems, but the very structure of the Federal Government makes positive change a big task. The fact that about half the states have been sold on a lie by the Republican Party contributes greatly to the problem. Republicans can say government doesn’t work, then when they get in office they actually break the institutions. They then point at those institutions they broke and say “See it’s busted!” as they actively had a hand in defunding the system.
Really, I feel the Democratic Party within blue states need to step up and implement the federal positive change they sought, but at the state and local levels instead. The only way Blue states will convince Red states to change at this point is by showing how their progressive policies work for them, and will in-turn work for us.
Namely, Blue states need to be tackling the housing crisis, creating well paying government jobs, investing in healthcare for all programs, providing more public housing options by potentially buying up private apartments, breaking up big monopolies, buy out the energy utilities to provide energy not-for-profit/actually implement energy system upgrades, and even implementing a statewide Universal Basic Income program.
There's no point trying to find logic here. They're driven by hate and nothing else.