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[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 45 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

In Switzerland I pay 40CHF (~49USD) yearly to get a free helicopter evacuation in case of an accident. Never needed it, but I know people that have. Absolutely worth it. While it's "just hiking" in most cases, being out in nature in the middle of nowhere can get dangerous fast.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t think people on here realize this but America literally has this too. My grandmother pays for it because she lives out in a very rural area. She pays a little more ($79 a year)

Not bullshitting you: https://www.lifeteam.net/membership

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

True but there is more than one of these orgs in America. This one just happens to be the biggest one.

[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

joey lawrence here. i play the dimwitted heartthrob on blossom but there's no heart in the american medical system--last week i paid 5000000 to remove an entire package of sweet tarts from my urethra.

whoa!

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

In Italy I pay 0€ to be evacuated from anywhere. It's crazy that you have to pay for an emergency.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yeah it's not great. Transport costs for emergencies are often only covered 50% in Switzerland. We do have the second most costly system after the US, and it's for the same reason imho, private insurers. There are some more guardrails here than in the US, so it's not completely horrible, but there are lots of better systems around Europe.

Regarding helicopter rescue specifically, that's kind of a funny case. In Switzerland the first helicopter rescue organization was founded as a non-profit foundation called Rega, and it continues to operate that way.

For patrons the Rega eats the cost of a rescue that no insurance covers. If you are not a patron and get rescued then the cost of the rescue that isn't covered falls to you. So in effect a Rega patronage also acts as a sort of gap-insurance.

Around 40% of the population are registered patrons of the Rega foundation. The cost for that is what benjirenji was actually referring to.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

In Switzerland they deal with an endless line of brain-dead tourists that put themselves into stupid situations where helicopter evacuation is the only option, so I can kinda understand that they'd put some stuff in place to prevent people from abusing that.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Tourists are human and all humans deserve free and ready access to healthcare or other emergency services, regardless of if they were born within the arbitrary bounds of your nation or otherwise.

There is no understanding that justifies requiring payment for emergency services behind a paywall.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I once went on a trip to Atacama and as a responsible person got insurgence that specifically covered rescue above 5000m. When I got there locals told me that there are actually no rescue teams there or anything.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I once went on a trip to Atacama and as a responsible person got insurgence that specifically covered rescue above 5000m. When I got there locals told me that there are actually no rescue teams there or anything.

Not sure i would trust insurgents with that task...

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I would fix it but they no one will know what are you taking about.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I will, but my memory is shit

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

"I pay... To get a free..." uhhhhhh one of us doesn't understand what "free" means.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Welcome to the insurance scheme, I guess.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

A helicopter ride does not cost 50$.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago

That's like arguing a house costs $1500 because that's what my yearly insurance is.

You're almost definitely not going to need to get that helicopter ride.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If you're paying for something, it not free, whether it costs $1 or $1,000,000

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to be pedantic, at least be extra pedantic about it.

It's all about the meaning of the word get. They aren't literally getting a free ride, since the fee is not for the ride. They pay the fee to be eligible for the free ride. So they are actually paying to be on the list, not to use the service.

But if you want to go one level deeper, in a world running on a capitalist system, nothing can ever be truly free. In the end everything is funded from the economy and we all contribute to the economy in some way.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 12 hours ago

That sure was a lot to say "you're right, it is in fact not free"

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago

And that is the insurance/tax, not the helicopter ride

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

The ride is never technically free, whether it's paid by insurance or taxes.