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[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 150 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I really need people to start to realize that we're at least a full decade further into the erosion and decline of the United States than most people seem to think we are. Trump is a symptom of an already sick and dying system. This isn't a fluke

[-] Jozav@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago

Europe should invade and force a regime change, liberate the US citizens.

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago

Once again, this isn't about regime. It's a systemic issue. The U.S. is a net negative for everyone, especially it's own people. The only solution is end the whole thing and try something new

[-] aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 1 month ago

And just like every kinda country/ government it should come from it's own people not from a foreign power.

It will not last if it comes from outside, the one who got taken down before, always goes back to the fake patriotism and put another dictator in same place back in the end, if not the same fucker (see Napoleon for example).

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

We should view wealth as a foreign power. The ultra wealthy are divested from the care and keeping of the country, and the regular people in it. They are openly hostile to the citizens, exploiting them and extracting rent and labor from them; and they seek to usurp and control the government.

[-] aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

True, a few business with over trillions of dollar while the fucking country is trillions in debt, it's fucking ridiculous. They have money for war, but not for health, they have the biggest corporations in the planet but don't have any perspective to pay any of their debts. No wonder a con man was elected to represent the people of US.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Funny though. Americans seem to think they can cart Blanche take control of, oh I don’t know: Cuba, Canada, Greenland, Denmark, Venezuela, Panama, and Iran and overthrow their governments with whatever right they seem to think they have. Hypocrisy much?

Edit. I forgot the Gulf of Mexico.

[-] aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Which they will see, it's gonna be the biggest mistake of the fucking century. It's literally Nazi Germany trying to take other countries as if they have any right.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

As one of the people living in one of the neoghbouring countries to the Untied States, I'm fucking terrified of annexation. I almost want them to start invading NATO countries just to see if anything will be done to stop them. I'm terrified Trump's apparent immunity to all consequences will extend internationally and the world will just fucking let him take whatever he wants

[-] rayyy@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

Our government should come from well informed people, not a few oligarchs who tell people how to vote via a controlled media.

[-] kettuli@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

So europeans should re-colonize it?

[-] aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think would want that, they barely have colonies in Africa anymore, and the one's they have eventually will declare independency. Colony are more trouble than worth it.

[-] Slovene85@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

I say we nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[-] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Can't we just do pedo's playhouse?

[-] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well hang on, let's send the elites into space first. Then nuke their ships. Then give earth a second chance. If we don't get it in 20 years, then we can call it a wash and wipe the planet clean.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

I'd be alright with the European Commission appointing an interim government here. I say this as a USian

[-] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Nah homie, let's just vote harder.

I am going to vote so hard

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

No, thanks. Though I will admit the idea of holding some Nuremberg Trials to see who gets hanged is tantalizing.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

No thank you, why should fixing their mess be our problem? I think the world should impose a quarantine on the U.S. instead, let the U.S. sort itself out.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Put the Untied States on time out until it behaves

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I do agree travel bans should be used more often. No travel visas for Israels anywhere would be a good start.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 1 month ago

Not touching that crap with a ten meter pole, thanks

[-] Denvil@piefed.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Get countless of their own people killed to save us Americans from ourselves until the next pedophile president comes along?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Invading the US would be extremely difficult.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 month ago

If Europe wants to lose, sure.

[-] dudeface@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Growing up in New Zealand we looked up to the USA as most nations did

It has been downhill since 9/11

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Exactly, the year before actually when Bush stole the election from Gore. To me that marks the start of the decline of the US.

Really though Reagan kicked it all off but the actual collapse started in 2000.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Alternative pitch, your politics were under developed in that era - and a lot of people in the mainstream culture were (through things like TV, an uncritical education system, and a lack of information) able to be politically inactive, and fairly unaware.

Because really you should have been sus on America and all the colonial countries and their parent countries for a long long time now.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The internet supercharged political awareness when for a long time we were willfully ignorant, or it seems that way to me

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Sadly, Aotearoa has gone down the populist right-wing path with Luxon and his merry band of cunts

I hope everyone who voted for National at the last election suffers a week of uncontrollable dribbling shits and learn to be better people

[-] chocrates@piefed.world 4 points 1 month ago

I sadly think we have another 10 to 15 of this at least, as well.

[-] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sooner we organize and wield our power as a group, the faster it'll be over, and the safer we will all be. It's going to hurt either way, at least if we organize we'll have control over how and with hope of a better future.

The longer we wait though....

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've been screaming for people to realize that the law doesn't matter if nobody is enforcing it. Absolutely nothing is stopping Trump from becoming a dictator. Maybe more people will open their eyes after midtetms

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Nuh uh

  • America
[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I think the U.S. will decline much more quickly. The Orange Guy has been in office for barely more than a year and a half, again—the damage he’s done this time around is pretty much irreparable.

[-] zd9@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Everyone should absolutely vote at a minimum, but only voting isn't going to get us out of this shit. It'll take mass protests, general strike, and [ Removed by Reddit ].

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

People keep thinking I'm saying don't bother voting when I say the midterms aren't going to save them. I guess my brain is wired differently than theirs. I don't think a hopeless situation means don't bother doing anything. I think yeah duh, you gotta try what you can

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

It's not falling fast enough

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Empire falls predictably, nation pulls a Pikachu face

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

All empires do.

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