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We need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising. (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 weeks ago by gif8287@lemmy.ml to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world
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It is so difficult tofind modern electronics without telemetry and ads. Smartphones, laptops, TVs, home routers, security cameras, cars, game consoles, e-readers, projectors, 3D printers, fitness trackers, speakers, and even some printers. Why can’t customers be free from this data collection and advertising? It’s not that we don’t care about it. There simply aren’t many alternatives, and the few that do exist are either more expensive or offer fewer features. Seriously, we need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising.

The following list is updated at https://lemmy.ml/post/52706206. Please note that this list may contain errors.

  • 3D printers: Prusa 3D Printer
  • Anything else that doesn’t come with ads or telemetry built in?

Could anyone help verify whether Prusa 3D Printer has any telemetry at all? And, hopefully, that Prusa isn’t planning to change its customer policies in the future to make telemetry collection or ads compulsory?

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[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No. The FSF is extremely strict on their requirements, so stuff like CPU microcode and proprietary firmware blobs for GPUs cannot be required for the hardware to run and must not be installed by default.

That disqualifies basically all modern x86 and ARM processors.

[-] joelectron@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I understand and appreciate the intention behind this, but I do feel like it makes any list they make less helpful. People are going to buy a computer. Who not point those people to something like a framework, while including a disclaimer about microcode (or whatever the issue is)?

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps reframing it helps: this list is helpful because you can show how short it is.

Treat it more like a communication and transparency offensive instead of a buy-this guide.

[-] joelectron@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

You know? That's a great point and has changed my mind, thank you!

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They are the uncompromising, principled voice in this particular space, and always have been, which can be important to have in society in general. If you would like pragmatism, then other peoples' recommendations and opinions exist for that.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

honestly i'm just amazed there's ANY sort of actual usable computer on there at all, though of course it's hilariously expensive and not even in stock

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