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Fluxer has been an adequate replacement for my ttrpg group, for anyone else looking for alternatives.
I've been using fluxer for a little while now, and it is pretty good! Though I'm looking forward to bug fixes for the screensharing and eventually federation being introduced
Screensharing definitely could use some work. They've improved the app a lot over the six or so months we've been using it. We absolutely still have some hiccups but worth it to ditch Discord.
It is pure Ai slop that won't be around in 3 years. I am open to counter arguments.
I looked up their GitHub repo and I don't see the "agents.md" file, AI/LLM disclosures nor signs of LLMs in the commit history. Is there any source of information on Fluxer being slop?
When I read the repo a few months ago, I saw one guy added more than 1m of code. They are deceiving everyone and should be punished.
Isn't this because Fluxer source code was published after the app has been launched?
People suspected he'd uploaded Fluxer in one big chunk to hide LLM usage. He admitted to using some AI help initially but claimed that he would use it sparingly.
This new issue is that he seems to be using LLMs heavily, based on the fact that he uploaded a million lines of code last month alone.
https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer/graphs/contributors?from=8%2F22%2F2026
I checked again today and it is 11m lines of code added. Do people not understand what it takes to code 1 million lines? PostgreSQL is around 1m. PHP the language and runtime are 1m. The man hours required for that much code is ridiculous.
It's free and open source, and I don't think perfect should stand in the way of good. If my group needs to migrate in 3 years, so be it; it's working now and isn't a Microsoft product.
Okay, trust the security of something with over 11m lines of code added in 2026 by one person.
Slop project, not sustainable. Matrix is the way.
Matrix is good. But its way too secure for my liking. Every time I log into a new device, I need to either use a previous device to verify, or add the new device by erasing my previous messages.
I am not recommending Matrix at all to someone who is not good at the computers mainly for this reason.
It has good, stable, and large enough communities however.
Movim might be a good option.
Matrix unfortunately wasn't going to work for my group.
…here we go. I have this discussion like once a week and most of the reasons stated are things that have been fixed years ago. Is this still the case, with the actual matrix specification?
The biggest problem was me not wanting to be a sysadmin in my free time. There were some other compatibility issues, and not a good mobile solution for us.
I'm currently hosting a matrix instance but haven't been able to get my friends to migrate over from Discord yet. The spec isn't the problem for us, it's the apps really. We have a seemingly basic discord server (channels for various hobbies/games we want to talk about + a general channel, a voice chat, and some custom meme emotes we made). In theory these should all be supported on the spec level.
Element has a ton of basic features locked behind a hidden developer menu (separate from the non-hidden developer menu) which is locked behind a / command. By default the app keeps defaulting to the old Jitsi meetings for voice calls even though I have the RTC matrix calling setup. It's also just finicky to get working. I'm the only one in the group willing to debug technical issues in their free time so this is actually an issue.
Cinny is better but the desktop app only supports voice chat on Windows (it's because of an upstream tauri issue but still stops several people in the group from being able to use it)
Nheko also seemed like a good option but it hasn't had a release in over a year which seems like a problem with how many improvements to matrix I've seen everywhere else.
FluffyChat is good and is what I use on my phone but it isn't well suited for discord-style organization with Spaces. There isn't a way to distinguish between standalone rooms and rooms withthin spaces. My understanding was that this is a spec issue and the way other apps handle it is hacky, but still worth mentioning.
Fluffychat can see spaces if you swipe from the left side of the screen
You can see spaces but it doesn't make a distinction between rooms in spaces and standalone rooms, so the "groups" tab ends up being filled with every room from every space you're in, making it impossible to find the lone standalone rooms. That and the fact that it also lists nested spaces completely separately from their parents, which ends up cluttering the list when a space used nested spaces to categorize individual rooms
Cinny and sable (cinny fork) both work fine as PWAs on desktop, windows and Linux. I'm running both on multiple machines and my phone
I should look into matrix. I have a small group of nerds in my group. need video, voice, text, and image sharing. A dice bot is nice, too.
I don't know why people are downvoting you, you are right. It is a garbage project all you have to do is look at the git history.